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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: I assume the new power will be put before the Dáil and that it will not be for the Committee of Public Accounts to make a decision on the matter.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: At the risk of upsetting some people, if the Valuation Office receives a request such as the one it received from Carlow-Kilkenny and is unable to do the job, should it not be done by a regional or provincial panel of pre-approved valuers who have tendered for the positions? We do not need to have legislation passed to allow a local authority to value a property. We need to work the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: The rate can only be levied from the date on which the final decision is made.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: There may be a non-legislative way of dealing with it in the public service by getting someone to do it on behalf of the Valuation Office if it is too busy to do so. I suggest that would be a simpler approach to take

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: I want to ask a few questions to follow up on the issue. On the exact point made, Mr. O'Sullivan said about 4% of the 1,200 cases were appealed and that 70% to 80%, or three quarters, do not proceed to a hearing. Therefore, one quarter of the 4% go to a hearing. Therefore, 1% end up in a hearing. I believe I saw a figure today indicating the cases proceeding to appeals represented a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Mr. O'Sullivan does not explain it properly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: The briefing note Mr. O'Sullivan gave us states that, regarding the cases that go to a hearing, the outcome varies from case to case. It states further recent analysis of the appeals tribunal was conducted resulting from the revaluations for Waterford and Limerick and that the analysis reveals the cases determined by the tribunal had, up to that point, resulted in overall reductions of 0.44%...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is a disingenuous figure, if Mr. O'Sullivan does not mind my saying so. Given that only 1%, or one in 100, went to a hearing, and there was a reduction of 0.4%, it means there is a massive reduction concerning each of those that went. Mr. O'Sullivan compared the number that proceeded to an appeal with the 99 that did not. That is not relevant. I am interested in the cases that went...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is looking at the overall 100%.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Now let us talk about the ones that went to the tribunal. What was the outcome in respect of those?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Give us the overall figures.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Mr. O'Sullivan must have some information.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Only 1% went to the tribunal.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Mr. O'Sullivan gives the impression that this resulted in a 0.4% reduction in the total bill for the whole county.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: That means 1% of cases resulted in a half-percent reduction. That would imply-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: I would not think that is the case.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: What page?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: Surprise, surprise; that is the bit I am interested in.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is. It is PR.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Seán Fleming: If valuations that would yield €1 million in revenue went in, what came out? That is all I want to know.

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