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Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Okay, so you accept that. Can I ask, Mr. O'Connor, you were at various meetings on the ... there's a note, Chairman, on ... it's ... I'm going to a previous volume, but I'd say Mr. O'Connor would be familiar with it.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Are you familiar with it? It's a note, a minute of a meeting of a meeting of ... 'twas either the 25th or the 28th, at which you were present at the meeting. They have you down as "Dan O'Connor", but I presume it's Denis O'Connor.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Same man, right. Are you Dan or Denis?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Okay, we'll call you Denis.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Chairman, it makes reference ... are you familiar with the note?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Can I just make reference to it and ask you ... the Taoiseach was present and the Minister for Finance was present at that meeting. Was that meeting on 25 or 28 September?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: The 25th, right. Now, at that meeting, it makes reference, "[David] Doyle noted [the]Government would need a good idea of the potential loss exposures within Anglo and INBS - on some assumptions INBS could be 2bn after capital and Anglo could be 8½" billion. Were ye asked to do any further work on Anglo and Irish Nationwide on the foot of those comments by David Doyle?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Were you asked for your comments, to give your opinion on the night, or your observation as to whether Anglo and Irish Nationwide were solvent at that time?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Did it come up for discussion at that time?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Yes.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Do you believe, yourself, that Anglo and Irish Nationwide with solvent on the night of the guarantee?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Well, I'd say Mr. O'Connor is a highly qualified man. I'd say-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: With due respect, Chairman, right, Mr. O'Connor was the only third-party person that would have looked at the balance sheets of the banks and their loans in the nine days up to - well, not quite nine, but certainly up to six or seven days up to that date-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Prior to the guarantee being put in place, was Anglo and Irish Nationwide solvent?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Sure that's why I'm asking the question.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: And what contingency plan did you recommend be put in place?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: So, technically, prior to the night of the guarantee, technically, was Anglo and Irish Nationwide Building Society - I suppose, Anglo in particular - was it insolvent?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: And if you'd been asked on that meeting of 25 September whether Anglo or Irish Nationwide were solvent, what response would you have given?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: So therefore, technically, prior to the guarantee it wasn't solvent, they were insolvent.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Can I just go back to the ... by the end of 2013, €64 billion in the six financial institutions, can you comment on the capital adequacy of the Irish financial institutions, risk over-concentration in property and land and development, arrears identification, interest roll-up? And, in your PwC report, you stated that - this is core document Project Atlas 1, Vol. 1:The latest available...

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