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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: On No. 1910, I refer to the document, Design Build Equip. We have not received the Linesight report. In the document, the figure zero is quoted for the cost because it is described as part of the design team fees-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: That does not mean we cannot be given sight of the cost.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I am seeking the report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I refer to the report rather than the cost because the report will take inflation into account.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Is he likely to go before the Joint Committee on Health?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Okay. That would be an important piece of information for us in making the decision.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: The centenarians' bounty is quite a large component of the Vote relating to the President's Establishment. Approximately 400 such bounties are paid each year, although, unfortunately, there were fewer last year. How much is that bounty per individual?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: It makes up quite a sizable amount - approximately one third - of the Vote.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: The bounty has not changed in recent years.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: The Chairman is not 100, is he?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Getting to 100 is a fairly significant milestone. We will have to do an actuarial assessment because it is predicted that a sizeable number of children born now will-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: -----live to 100. That is a very positive development. The bounty comprises approximately one third of the Vote. There was one contract that did not comply with procurement guidelines. It was a new contract awarded in 2018. Does Mr. Fraser know what that contract was for?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Was that the only non-complying contract?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: A sum of €37,000 is quite sizeable for a mobile phone. Would the contract have been for several mobile phones?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I completely accept that this Vote is different in terms of Mr. Fraser's responsibility. Does the OPW Vote cover things such as marquees for garden parties or is it purely responsible for matters such as keeping the house and grounds in good condition? Does the Vote stray into that other area?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Are there people from the OPW based in the Áras? If so, are they counted as being members of the staff?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: There is quite a bit of crossover in this particular office. It involves the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade and other Departments. That is understandable. To move on to the Department of the Taoiseach's Vote, I want to explore redundancy and severance. It has always been my understanding that a job is made redundant as opposed to an individual. Is it then accurate to count it as...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Nobody would dispute that should occur and that people should be treated fairly, the issue at which I am trying to get is how it is described in terms of numbers. The numbers will not decrease but the personnel will be different.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach
(7 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Mr. Fraser already dealt with disposal of assets. I had picked some of the issues which he has already gone through. I will move onto the tribunals of inquiry. I understand that it cannot be predicted in advance but some of the legal costs arising from the Moriarty tribunal related to Deputy Lowry. Am I right on that? That was quite a long time ago. Does Mr. Fraser know the total cost...

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