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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: That is gobbledygook to me. Mr. Griffin is telling me that in 2004 it was okay to rely on something, but Deloitte said it made the report on the basis of the information available. On the basis of the information available from the whistleblower the figure was €30,000, so where did Deloitte get the information that gave them the confidence in the figure of €1.3 million?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: There is an industry price list stating the equipment was worth €1.3 million, but a director centrally involved in the case blew the whistle and said the equipment was worth €30,000?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: I am not asking that question. I want to find out what the foundation was for the belief that the value of the equipment was €1.3 million. The next question is the obvious one. Why is there such a difference between the two figures, €30,000 and €1.3 million? Did someone investigate that? Did somebody go further than Deloitte or ASM and go back to the whistleblower to...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: An invoice is not an allegation. Did anyone ask for or see the invoice for the purchase of those racks?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Where, then, did Deloitte get the information it relied on and which gave it comfort to tell the Department and the SEUPB that it was worth €1.3 million? It is very vague. It does not say it is worth €1.3 million but that "on the basis of information available" it is worth €1.3 million. Can Mr. Colgan or Mr. Griffin give me the documentation that will clearly show the...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: They gave an estimate based on the information available to them. All I am asking Mr. Colgan to do is to go back to Deloitte and ask them to explain how they arrived at the information on which they based their estimate of €1.3 million. What is the rationale behind it and what paperwork did they use?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: So it is a nonsense.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: I know, but Mr. Colgan should be doing more than that. It is a complete nonsense. Mr. Colgan is using the name "Deloitte" to give some weight and significance to what happened. We have a figure of €1.3 million and we have no background information behind it. It is ridiculous to come to the Committee of Public Accounts and put before it the notion that his body has a weighty...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Was there another one?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: That is the one that was unfinished.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: How much did that cost?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Did Mr. Colgan not ask them?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Did Mr. Griffin ask DETI how much that report cost?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: We do not know how much the unfinished report cost. How much did the finished report cost?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Why was the additional work not included in the original request?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: How much did the Deloitte report cost?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Sorry to interrupt, but who paid for that report?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: More taxpayers' money.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: What was that for?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: So the £19,000 plus VAT, the £10,000 plus VAT and now the £11,000 was paid out of the European funds.

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