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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Everyone seems to be saying "on the basis of the information available to me". That is the get-out explanation. That is how I perceive it. You will have to forgive me; I am only a layman. I put it to you that if I was paying out €1.3 million, I would not be doing it on a nod from someone else. I would be doing it on the basis of an assessment. We are either saying that the...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Is that the €1.3 million figure?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Then where did the €30,000 come from?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Did anyone investigate the whistleblower's information or why that person believed the racks were only worth €30,000? By the way, without naming the whistleblower or whistleblowers, who were they? Were they people who thought they knew something? Were they people who knew something? Obviously, they did. Were they directors of the company? Were they two different people?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Was that whistleblower the person who told the Department they were only worth €30,000?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Who notified the Department of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Was that a different whistleblower?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Was that the company director?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Who was the other whistleblower?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Who knows about it?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: The SEUPB did not know about that whistleblower. Who knew about the second whistleblower?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Where was that person? Was that another director?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Only a minute ago, Mr. Griffin, you told Deputy Costello that there were two different whistleblowers. Is that not right?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: They were made by the same whistleblower. Is that the case?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: I take it that was the same whistleblower. Did that whistleblower tell the Department that these racks were worth €30,000? If not, who told the Department that?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: A director of the company must have had knowledge of the purchase of this type of equipment. He probably knew how much that equipment was purchased for. He told the Department that it was worth €30,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: He told DETI. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: What the Department's report is saying to the committee, and what your answer is telling me, is that rather than relying on that, the Department is relying on the information that Deloitte gave to the Department to the effect that the equipment was worth €1.3 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: You are referring to the company that carried out the report. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: That company has said that the equipment is worth €1.3 million in its report.

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