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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will ask for a comprehensive note giving all the categories of issues covered by this legal spend.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay. We will ask whether that was done in 2017 and also about the outcome of that tendering process. It is an explanation, but a weak one to say that the board wants to stick with the professional advisers it has because of changes in legislation. These advisers are almost embedded in the organisation at this stage, they have been working alongside it for so long. We have covered it. We...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: It looks as if it is one major firm.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, and a breakdown of the type of advice provided.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: Some of it does not seem to have related to disputes at all. It looks as if there are people from the particular firm effectively working with the board permanently and dealing with various issues on an ongoing basis. We will come back to that. That is agreed. The next item is the current work programme. Members have a copy. We agreed to some of it at the last meeting. When we go...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: In light of the meeting with the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform we had it in mind to bring in the Office of Government Procurement. We will definitely do that, but we will keep it to a separate meeting. The issue of PPPs is enough on its own.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will certainly do that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: I will come to the Deputy Connolly shortly. The Department of Justice and Equality is down on the work programme for April. Whether this issue is discussed at that meeting or shortly before or after, we definitely have to address it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: I would like to put on the public record that, in respect of the meeting on PPPs on 22 March, I want agreement that we will have the Accounting Officer for the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform; the Accounting Officer for the Department of Education and Skills, because of the schools; the Accounting Officer for Transport Infrastructure Ireland, which is a big one; and the Accounting...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay. We have made clear who we are going to invite before the committee for that meeting. That ends that. In a few moments we will be inviting in the witnesses for today's meeting but before we get to that there is one item I want to clear in private session.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are dealing with the 2016 annual report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, chapter 10, shared services – management of salary overpayments, which is the item specifically mentioned in his report. We will also deal with the appropriation accounts for 2016 and Vote 18, National Shared Services Office. We are joined by officials from the National Shared Services Office, Ms...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. McCarthy. I welcome Ms Murphy-Fagan to her first meeting as Accounting Officer. She only took over responsibility the other day. I invite her to make her opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: I thank Ms Murphy-Fagan for that opening statement. We have a list of speakers. I have one quick question. It is 1 February. Have all the P60s for last year been made available to those 124,500 people?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is fine. The speakers will be Deputy Alan Kelly, who will have 20 minutes, followed by Deputy Bobby Aylward, who will have 15. Deputies Marc MacSharry, David Cullinane, Catherine Connolly and Catherine Murphy will have ten minutes. I call Deputy Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are all meant to know about it by this year.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is a request from the committee.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is Deputy Kelly referring to the 134,000 or the internal staff of the organisation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have a photograph of Deputy Kelly opening that service.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: The other big groups are separate.

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