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Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: No, they have already been disposed of, in the sense that they fell. I acknowledge-----

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: No. To be fair to the Deputy, I acknowledge the difficulties she has. I started the meeting asking in particular if there were substitutes for anybody because that is permissible. There was nobody, however, to move those amendments at the point in the meeting they arose. We are on Deputy Brady's amendment which is amendment No. 11, and I acknowledge that it is similar. I will permit the...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: I am sorry about this Deputy.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: At the start of the meeting I deliberately asked specifically if there were substitutes, as I am mindful of the challenges that people have with multiple committees and so forth.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: That being said, the Deputy has the option on Report Stage. Does the Deputy wish to contribute to Deputy Brady's-----

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: I call the Minister who was anxious to speak on the amendment.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: Deputy Brady can come back in briefly if he so wishes.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: Can I have a final comment from the Minister?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: Deputy Brady should address his questions through the Chair, please.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: I call Deputy O'Dea.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: Is Deputy Brady pressing the amendment?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: Amendment No. 12 is in the name of Deputy Broughan but as he is not here his amendment falls.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: I thank the Minister. Amendment No. 12 was not moved because the Deputy concerned was not here.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: It would be a matter for the committee to decide if it wishes to make it part of the work programme. The way the amendment is drafted means that the report is to be presented and then the committee would decide, as is the normal course of events.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: No, you can withdraw it and resubmit it on Report Stage with a reference to six months.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: We can have that discussion in a moment. Amendment No. 14 is being withdrawn and is to resubmitted with a reference to a six month period on Report Stage.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: Amendment No. 15 is out of order as it involves a potential charge on the Exchequer.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: The Deputy should stay on the amendment.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: It is.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare, Pensions and Civil Registration Bill 2018: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2018)

John Curran: Let us stay with the amendment. On the amendment, it is all fine benchmarking the increase in payments but, as I said on Second Stage, it is also important there is a whole-of-Government review of income thresholds for grants and other schemes which are effected by these increases which must be included overall.

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