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Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: Yes, they have been circulated but on separate sheets. It would not kill those in the Bills Office to provide an updated list, after six or eight months, so that we can do our work efficiently.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: Section 46, which is quite short, should be withdrawn by the Government and reworked because it is a grammatical nonsense. It states:In advising the President in relation to the appointment of a person to a judicial office the Government shall firstly consider for appointment those persons whose names have been recommended to the Minister or, in the case of section 44, the Government in...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: I will certainly yield.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: No. I am learning all the time from both the Minister, with his extensive legal knowledge, and my colleague, Senator McDowell.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: I am an old dog. Watch this space.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: And the word "to" also.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: It is a grammatical nonsense at the moment.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: Yes, but very briefly. Senator McDowell's argument-----

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: In that case, I will not be rushed. I will talk with very laconic laxity. I will speed up again. As I understand it, Senator McDowell's argument is that if the Government gets a list of three candidates for a vacancy and another vacancy arises, the individuals on the original list should stay recommended. I presume one of them will be removed because he or she will have been appointed.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: So there will be one gap. It seems that if the criteria are satisfied in the first instance, they should remain so. Therefore, it is a redundant exercise to put the candidates through this nonsense again. It might suggest to the onlooker that a judge has been dropped because, in the intervening two months or whatever, he has engaged in some kind of nefarious activity that is regarded as...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: The word "to" should be inserted.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: I ask the Minister to respond to the grammatical issue which I raised.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: The word "to" should be included.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: I thank the Minister. I am very grateful to him because the final phrase is rendered meaningless and would, therefore, have no impact. If the Government wishes it to have impact, it will have to look to the grammar of the section.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: No popery here - "Lillibulero".

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: He would know all about that.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: They may not get to the top.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: He must have hit himself in the leg because his knee jerked as well.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: I would not say that.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Apr 2019)

David Norris: They all have to be Roman Catholics.

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