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Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: So we are being told.

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: I am concluding. This is important because what I am putting on the record is that claims that we know to be false in some cases, and may well turn out to be false in the case of the most recent claims that have been made, are being used to bolster legislation. The Minister is not standing athwart those claims. In everything he is doing, he is seeking to facilitate and express clear...

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: I am very close to concluding.

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: It is as difficult for me to listen to things that I know and believe are harmful for our society and which, in some cases, I believe to be untrue, as it is for others to hear my carefully reflected upon and honestly held views about what I think is going on here. I ask colleagues to respect the fact that as far as they know, I speak for at least one third of those who voted in 2018. There...

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: My point is that is why we need somebody-----

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: That is why-----

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: I have listened to all the contributions and considerable latitude has been given. My points are-----

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: As an Leas-Chathaoirleach knows, I would be finished by now if I had not been heckled. The attempt, of course, is to prevent the point being made. My point is that an independent person is not just somebody, as Senator Clifford-Lee stated, who-----

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: I did not get to make the point.

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: Please, a Leas-Chathaoirligh. I want 30 seconds.

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: It is relevant because it is about-----

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: It is relevant because it is about-----

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: It would be very respectful if people would just let each other finish.

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: It has never been claimed that the only meaning of independent is independent of Government. It is obvious to any reasonable person looking in that in order-----

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: A Leas-Chathaoirligh, if you-----

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: Can I just make a point?

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: I am about to finish. If the Leas-Chathaoirleach stops me from making my point, allows the heckler to make her point and prevents me from responding, that cannot be correct parliamentary practice.

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: Let me just answer the point then.

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: Please, a Leas-Chathaoirligh. You know what is going on here.

Seanad: Safe Access to Termination of Pregnancy Services Bill 2021: Committee Stage (10 Feb 2022)

Rónán Mullen: Let us be fair.

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