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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, it is the HSE. We will need to have the HSE with us to discuss that issue. It is a phenomenal item at €2.7 billion. The Deputy said the legal costs are not the main issue-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We have not seen any results from the open disclosure policy yet. The figures are going up. When we have representatives of the NTMA here, which will be scheduled close to the summer recess, we will invite the HSE. We might have just one session on that because we will have other NTMA business. However, the State Claims Agency and the HSE must be in the one room on that occasion. The...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will note it and the Deputy is free to raise it again at any stage.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: However, we will forward this to the organisation that contacted us. The next correspondence is No. 1060 from Mr. John McCarthy, Secretary General of the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government, dated 31 January 2018, in reply to a matter raised by an individual alleging waste of public moneys by Dublin City Council regarding the digging of bore holes on private property. The...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, and we will forward the reply we received from the National Women's Council to the person who contacted us on the matter in the first instance. No. 1064 is from Seán Ó Foghlú, Secretary General of the Department of Education and Skills, regarding issues raised by the committee relating to the Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board and possible safety issues at...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: That concludes that item on the agenda. The next item on the agenda is the work programme. There is no change from the list circulated last week. Does anyone have an additional comment?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: I will call the members first and then we will come back to the Comptroller and Auditor General.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: Say that again.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will wrap up as we have had a discussion and next Thursday we will come back with a revised work programme. We will try to tighten it and ncorporate some of the other items mentioned. It might result in having to have a full-day session - morning and afternoon - on some Thursdays to get through the issues members have raised, in addition to the basic work we have to do each year on the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: If members do not have a copy of the internal audit report, they can contact the secretariat which will supply them with the link to it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will come back next week with a revised work programme. There is one small item to which I want to refer under the heading of "any other business". It will only take a moment to deal with it. It concerns the Courts Service and use of the poor box. I have received some telephone calls on the issue. Does it come within the remit of the committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. McCarthy explain who administers it?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will write to the Courts Service requesting an information note on how the poor box system works in the different court districts throughout the country. We will take it from there.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is a little like the situation in the case of wards of court funds.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We have raised the point.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are dealing today with the 2016 annual report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, chapter 7, Dormant Accounts Fund, under the aegis of the Department of Rural and Community Development. We are joined by officials from the Department of Rural and Community Development, Mr. Kevin McCarthy, Secretary General, Mr. Fergal Costello, principal officer, Mr. Kenneth Jordan, principal officer...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. McCarthy. I call on Mr. Kevin McCarthy to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. McCarthy. Before I call Deputy Catherine Murphy, I must express disappointment with the opening statement. We have received a 20-page report from the Comptroller and Auditor General detailing the underspend under the Dormant Accounts Fund area by area, including charts that show commitments, including one where 95% of the money had not been drawn down. Despite this, Mr....

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: I must take the others. We will come back to it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is worse it is getting. I was not happy with the opening statement and it has gone seriously downhill the longer the meeting has gone on.

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