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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Did BT notice any change in its dealing with Enet either before or after the acquisition by Granaghan McCourt or was it pretty much a similar relationship all the way through?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I want to ask about the language in a lot of the documentation on broadband coverage, regions of the country and all this kind of stuff. There is a difference between passing the availability of a facility and the penetration of the facility. It gives the impression that there is a large take up. Cost and the 50% reduction is important from that point of view. Cost will be a determining...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Say BT has the MANs but there are other entities with broadband as well. It would be quite useful to have a full mapping service so we know what is available and also what the penetration is as opposed to what is there in theory, what is being taken up in practice and what the impediments to taking up broadband might be. Some of that has been addressed yesterday to some degree by a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: It is all the more important that the MANs contract works effectively if that is the case.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: There would be consequences for the State under state aid rules for not operating this correctly. What consequences does Mr. Evans understand there will be?

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I wish the witnesses a good afternoon and apologise for the delay. I wish to deal first with the MANs. I appreciate that Eir has its own network but did it indicate its interest to the Department in advance? These contracts were not due to come up until 2019 and 2024 but would have been dealt with in advance of that.

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Eir was expecting it.

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: That would have been several entities potentially in a competitive process.

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: In fact it might have driven down the price several years ago because we noted there was a 50% reduction per metre announced yesterday, as a consequence of the Analysys Mason report.

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I may come back to that. I want to concentrate on another point. Ms Lennon touched on her regulatory concerns with regard to the withdrawal of the national broadband plan. We have only one entity now. Ms Lennon said there were only two. It can only be Eir and Enet who were still in it - if that is what the consortium is called now. It would have been SIRO. I understand it was in the...

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Ms Lennon has gone through the efforts and costs for that.

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: It is not an inconsiderable effort to do that submission. Did Ms Lennon raise the concerns at the time with the Department? I understand there is a communications protocol but there would have been a separation within the Department for the team that was dealing with it. Did Ms Lennon raise her concerns?

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Should he have raised those issues?

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Does Ms Lennon think there was inequality of treatment? We see in Mr. Peter Smyth's report that there was ongoing engagement with another entity, but in Ms Lennon's experience, was there inequality of treatment?

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Would Ms Lennon say Eir was subject to inequality of treatment?

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Eir accepted the protocol, but the protocol did not seem to apply universally.

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: However, judging from the report, there was no equality of treatment.

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: In retrospect, does Ms Lennon think the concerns Eir expressed undermined the national broadband process? It appears that instead of the process accelerating the delivery of broadband, it has delayed it. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Eir (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Eir's recent investment which I accept is a commercial one and does not require a subsidy from the State is in part of the area mapped as an intervention area.

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