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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We want the full picture of the organisations that are audited. Somebody will have to go through their statements of internal control and pick out what is in them.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We want to get as big a picture as possible. It is a bit like the salary overpayments. It is fine just talking about what is in front of us, but we are looking for the full picture. We acknowledge it will take a bit of time. We will note this correspondence even though we had a discussion on them at our last meeting, and I ask the Comptroller and Auditor General to keep us informed. ...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is €2 billion.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will ask the secretariat to circulate the report by Dr. Jane Pillinger that is referred to in the letter to all members. I do not know what is in it. I have not looked at it yet. If that is circulated, it will be on our correspondence list for the next meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is likely to be the HSE.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: In a region.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will write to the HSE asking for a breakdown and what procurement procedures must be engaged in to establish the nine companies.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: I saw that and Deputy Connolly is correct. We will also get the other draft report which she mentioned. We all know that the vast majority of cases are in the area of obstetrics. One would assume that 70% or 80% of all claims would be in that area. One would assume that they would have concentrated on those maternity and obstetric hospitals in the first place.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will write to the HSE for that detailed breakdown and the background to that procurement process for its own legal adviser. Second, we will circulate the report of the pilot project by Dr. Jane Pillinger. We will keep it on our agenda. The next item of correspondence is No. 1076B from Mr John O'Sullivan, chief executive and Commissioner of Valuation regarding follow up information...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: Which report is that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: They did not give us much information.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: It was EUROSTAT.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: To conclude on this item of correspondence, members will recall that we included this topic - the full costing from all taxpayer sources - in our report last summer. We received and considered the response from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and rejected it. It just said it was impossible to do it. The Revenue Commissioners expect people to do it if they are looking for...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: The covering letter from the HEA is No. 1077B1. The second document is 1077B2, which is the review of intellectual property management and conflicts of interest. The third item is No. 1077B3, which is the note from Ms Alison Campbell, director of Knowledge Transfer Ireland.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: And the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. I think we have exposed a major weakness in the system and will follow it up.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: It did not transfer much knowledge to us.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is a section in the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will ask the secretariat to provide information on what Knowledge Transfer Ireland is and where it comes from. We will note that correspondence and will come back to it. We have received another item of correspondence, No. 1081, from the HEA providing a follow-up review report carried out by Dr. Thorn relating to certain matters and allegations relating to the University of Limerick....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have not seen it. It is being considered and we will have it back next week. The next item of correspondence is No. 1065C. It is dated 5 February 2018, was received from an individual and relates to a data breach at KBC Bank. It is not within the remit of the committee to look at it. I propose, therefore, that, in order to be helpful, we provide the individual with details of the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Feb 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is easy to knock us, but when one looks at those four items with which we dealt extensively and which are all being investigated by major tribunals and commissions of inquiry, it demonstrates the significance of the work which crosses our desks. We now take it as routine, but it is very serious. I have highlighted it because we are dealing with the particular item of correspondence. We...

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