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Order of Business. (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: This is bullying.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: On a point of order, a Cheann Comhairle——

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: It is a point of order. There is an official record of this House——

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: You have not heard my question.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: On a point of order, a Cheann Comhairle——

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: A Cheann Comhairle, I was attempting to raise a point of order.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: A Cheann Comhairle, I want to raise two points of order. First, in the 16 years I have been a Member of this House I have not raised any matter that is frivolous, point of order or otherwise.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: I ask you, a Cheann Comhairle, out of respect for me and other Members of the House, to withdraw your reference to what you described as a frivolous point of order that you had not even heard. Second, I want to raise the point of order I started to raise earlier. There is an official record of the proceedings of this House.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: It is referred to again and again. Two Ministers of the Government have put two contradictory statements on the record. Which record is correct?

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: Which record is correct? The Ceann Comhairle should answer that.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: Which Minister was telling the truth?

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: A Cheann Comhairle, Ministers in the past lied to each other and lied to the House.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: There were court cases because Ministers lied. I want to know which of these two Ministers was telling the truth.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: I did not say anybody lied.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: In the past.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: Nobody said that.

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: This amendment concerns the issue of a Garda ombudsman. Earlier this week, the former Ombudsman, Mr. Kevin Murphy, made a number of interesting comments about the obligation on Government to be amenable and accountable for its actions through the Oireachtas and about the responsibility of the Oireachtas to ensure Government accountability, through this House, to the public. These comments are...

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: Yes, and at the very outset, a Leas-Cheann Comhairle, I stated that the amendment was about a Garda ombudsman. I am referring to the comments that were made by the former Ombudsman, Mr. Kevin Murphy, about the relationship between the work of an ombudsman——

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: It is.

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Eamon Gilmore: Perhaps you could hear me out, a Leas-Cheann Comhairle. My colleague, Deputy Howlin, drew attention to the fact that last Friday the Minister, Deputy McDowell, informed the House that the Carty report was not delivered to him or to the then Minister, Deputy O'Donoghue, at a time when its full contents would have definitely been of interest to them and would have enabled them to make earlier...

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