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Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: When did the negotiations start for the Renault contract?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Mr. Kelly can see where the cloud or fog of confusion arises when people say that the two contracts are running parallel and one had a 20% pay cut and the other had a supplement.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Briefly, please, because I am under time pressure.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Try sitting where we are sitting.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: In terms of the invoicing, I hear what Mr. Kelly says. He did what he was told.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: There is an email in the pack provided and he mentioned all the information on the invoice. I think Astus is the name of the company he was told to invoice from.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Did he ever meet any representatives from Astus?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Was this just a new company that he was told to invoice?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: That was not really questioned at all, on Mr. Kelly's part either.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: So if RTÉ had asked him to pay Newstalk, would he have done that too?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I am being facetious because Mr. Kelly was negotiating with RTÉ on a contract and he was told to invoice a different company he had never heard of. How did that come about and how come there was no questioning of it?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I get that.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Why was there not a question about who was being invoiced? Mr. Kelly was negotiating with RTÉ and now he was invoicing Joe Bloggs.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Did it ever ask him to invoice a company he had never heard of?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: No, in the negotiations-----

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: On the Zoom call of 7 May-----

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Were they the solicitors that Mr. Kelly spoke about, Trish Whelan and-----

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: There were three representatives from RTÉ at the meeting, two from the solicitor's office and then the DG.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: There was a colleague of Mr. Kelly's on his side.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Cormac Devlin: In the last minute or so that I have, I want to ask about Toy Show, The Musical. We have heard a lot about it. We have heard there was a €2.2 million loss. I know Mr. Kelly was not directly involved but is an agent acting on behalf of Mr. Tubridy. Mr. Tubridy works, or worked, with RTÉ.

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