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Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: I did not ask that but I thank the witness for answering.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: The question is how these people got on, or how so many associates got on the board. There are three at the moment, including Mr. Brady, Mr. Kiely and Mr. Nugent, who are all closely allied to Fianna Fáil.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Since when?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: I did not know that. It is an appropriate decision and I congratulate Mr. Kiely. I wish more would follow his particular example in this case. Is Mr. Ahern associated with or does he visit the clinic?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: He has not visited the clinic in the past six or eight months.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Is that because they are not invited?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: I do not quite understand the association with the Mater Hospital.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Can I have the figures again?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Why did the CRC not advertise externally?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Okay. And you ignored all the warnings you got from the HSE on this during the summer. It said it was highly irregular. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: So you ignored it.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Okay. I am coming to a close. I want to ask Mr. Nugent one question in response to what he has just said. There is no way you are an independent company. You get €16 million a year, or around that, for the past few years, which is by far the majority of your funding, from the State. That puts you under an obligation to the taxpayer. It puts you under an obligation not to ignore...

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: No, you do not have to answer it, but I am asking you to consider it because you have let down the State, the taxpayer and also Friends and Supporters of the Central Remedial Clinic. Maybe you can consider it.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: I am finished. Thank you.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: How will it be repaid? Sorry, go ahead, I apologise.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Did they tell Mr. Nugent the same in 2007? He is gambling on the stock market is he not?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: How will the pension fund increase?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Mr. Nugent is protecting Mr. Kiely and other people at the expense of the Friends and Supporters of the Central Remedial Clinic.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: People all over the country are taking pension reductions or are getting none. It would not be unreasonable to go to the top people in the CRC, especially those who are paid €240,000, and tell them they are also taking a reduction instead of taking money from the Friends and Supporters of the Central Remedial Clinic. Mr. Nugent did not do it. It may be paid back but that is...

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