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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: I agree with Deputy Connolly. Perhaps the secretariat would draft a note for the next meeting setting out the rationale for Nursing Homes Ireland appearing before the committee and the parameters for it, following which we can then make a decision.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: It is welcome that representatives of RTÉ will attend the committee. To be helpful to RTÉ, the clerk and the Chairman, I will raise three issues on which we will need briefing notes from RTÉ. I have consistently suggested its representatives should come before the committee, with others. The issues to be discussed include the practice of self-employment and short-term...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: I am aware that proposals and suggestions have been made, which is fine-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: -----but this should be communicated to RTÉ in order that its representatives will not be able to state they do not have the relevant information when they come before the committee. I would like to focus on those three areas and I am giving RTÉ a heads up well in advance of the appearance of its representatives.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: The other issues I have mentioned should also be communicated to RTÉ.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: It is on the missing page.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: It is an ICT problem.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: I thank the Chairman. We could be interrupted by a vote but hopefully not. I should have enough time. I welcome Ms McPhillips and her team. How long has Ms McPhillips been the acting Secretary General?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: How long has Ms McPhillips been with the Department of Justice and Equality?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: That is a long time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: Ms McPhillips's predecessor left prematurely. Was it early retirement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: Was it an early retirement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: I am not talking about that. I am just saying that Ms McPhillips's predecessor left prematurely and his predecessor then-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: He was not due to retire - I will put it that way.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: He could have stayed on longer, as could his predecessor who, I believe, left early also. What was the reason for the departure of his predecessor?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: He went to another job in the public service. Is Ms McPhillips applying for the job?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: Okay. We will see what happens.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: How long has Ms McPhillips been with the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: How many years is that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

David Cullinane: I assume that Ms McPhillips has read the Toland report.

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