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Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: That concludes the consideration of the Supplementary Estimate for Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine for the year ended 31 December 2014 and in accordance with Standing Order 87, a message to that effect will be sent to the Acting Clerk of the Dáil. Before we conclude, this will be the last meeting before Christmas that the Minister will attend. With the approval of the...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: I mean what I said sincerely and I am sure the committee agrees.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: Agreed, but I hope we have plenty of talent coming through. I wish all the officials a Happy Christmas and a happy new year.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Message to Dáil (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: In accordance with Standing Order 87, the following message will be sent to the Dáil: The Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine has completed its consideration of the following Supplementary Estimate for public services for the year ending 31 December 2014: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: As we have a quorum, we will commence in public session. All mobile phones should be switched off because they cause interference. I have apologies from Deputies Michael McNamara and Martin Heydon. This meeting has been convened to consider a Supplementary Estimate on Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine, which was referred by the Dáil to the committee on 3 December with an...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: I draw a distinction between inspections carried out by the investigations division and normal departmental inspections. The farmers’ charter is being redrafted. The committee can look at this as part of its recommendations in this matter. As members pointed out, people are not advised of inspections. However, it should also be remembered that 140 cases a year are involved, of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: Do they include minor and major investigations of other areas within the Department’s responsibilities? Will the Department give us a detailed breakdown of the investigations involved? The annual report will be-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: The committee will be making recommendations. As this is a work in progress, the committee has a job to do, too. It will make recommendations which will be as constructive as possible. They will seek to ensure Ireland’s reputation as a food producer is kept to the highest standard and that investigations, a necessary part of standard controls, are seen as being conducted fairly...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: Is that made clear to them from the outset?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: Through the Chair. Deputy Penrose indicated before Deputy Ferris. Deputy Pringle is not finished.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: We are coming to a key point here and I am anxious that we need time to discuss it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: Deputy Deering has a supplementary question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: I thank the witnesses. During Mr. Carroll's statement he commented on people from the SIU being subjected to threatening behaviour. Rather than the impression going out from there that that was all between farmers, it was obvious where some of it came from. The two most high-profile investigations the SIU has successfully investigated for the betterment of the reputation of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: I seek clarification in this regard, because this is important.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: Is Mr. Carroll referring to complaints that come before the new unit, as opposed to the previous unit, or to complaints about the new unit?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: As for the processes Mr. Carroll stated were the same, is he referring to the protocols for the new unit, or is he saying the new unit will investigate in the same way as the old unit?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: It is about the unit. I apologise, as I was not sure. I interpreted that comment as being the other way around.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: Does the Minister have a right to review? If a determination is made on a complaint through the steering group, does it then form part of the Department's report back to the Minister annually?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: In order to get answers to the rest of the questions, and arising from that last statement that this still is an ongoing process, I suggest that the joint committee meet privately to consider recommendations it can make on how that part would be dealt with. In other words, I will not pre-empt it, but we have already heard about independent appeals boards and measures such as that. Perhaps...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Investigations Division: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (9 Dec 2014)

Andrew Doyle: To be fair, that perhaps is a question for the Minister. I ask Mr. Carroll to proceed.

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