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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: Mr. Doherty has made a valid point but I do not know how we would overcome the planning issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: That they have not-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: I am happy to give way to other members. I am conscious of time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: I will follow up on some of the points made in previous rounds. Am I correct that Mr. Forde said he had looked at 5,000 units with regard to the foundation issue?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: Okay, it is split down the middle.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: To be clear-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: Mr. Forde has not experienced-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: Yes. Regarding the body of work being done by NSAI, does Mr. Forde have an expected date for that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: That is fine. I will follow up on a couple of the points my colleague, Deputy Higgins, made in her contribution regarding the timelines to do the body of work and to redo it. Mr. Mahon said that two to three months was the parameter for the existing one and that he was reliant on goodwill and volunteerism to do the excellent work he has done. He must be able to put an estimate on the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: Yes, and the extended areas in terms of regionalisation, as was referenced in Mr. Mahon's initial response.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: From what Mr. Mahon said, it sounds as if it is an extensive body of work and would take longer than three months, if it has taken that amount of time to get the existing body of work. Are we talking five months or six months?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: Yes, and that was the question asked by Deputy Ó Broin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: Yes, they are two different points. On the eight house types that were used, they are typical house types. Mr. Mahon said that he does not view the cost per square metre as the best way to go about this. However, are the eight house types not a good barometer for what we are looking at here in terms of analysis?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: I cannot think of a better way of looking at this than by using the eight house types. We cannot analyse every house type.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: There are hundreds of house types. Is Mr. Mahon satisfied that the eight house types are a good barometer of what we were analysing?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: It would be remiss of us not to ask Mr. O'Connell to elaborate on what he said about the possibility of bad practice - bad apples were referenced - continuing to this day. As somebody from Waterford, I know the south east was referenced, so would Mr. O'Connell like to expand on his comments? The implication was that Oireachtas Members may be aware of an issue. Anybody looking at today's...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: I assume Mr. O'Connell does not want to expand on the assertion that Deputies are aware of the particular quarry or quarries. I am not sure which it is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: That was more in a questioning sense rather than in being aware of a definite issue. It is important to have that clarity on record today. I am from the south east and I am not aware of any issues. I am certainly happy to have a conversation with Mr. O'Connell offline about that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

John Cummins: If I have any time left over, I will allow my colleague, Deputy Dillon, to use it. I will follow on from our earlier session and what was said about quarries that are operating at present. While we are discussing issues that have happened in the past, defective blocks and the impact they have had on many households, I am acutely conscious of what is happening right now. Is the Department...

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