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Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Amendment No. 141 is one of our amendments.

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: On a point of order, that is an amendment that we put forward, and I am happy for it to be included in the group if other Senators agree. It is indicative of the chaos of the Bill that we do not even have the correct groupings.

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: No.

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: I concur. I am speaking about amendment No. 8, which states: " "separated child" means a child under the age of 18, who is outside his or her country of nationality or, if a stateless person, outside his or her country of habitual residence and who is separated from both parents, or from his or her previous legal or customary caregiver". Although section 14 goes some way towards defining an...

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: On a point of clarification, I do not see the difference between what the Minister of State just said and the amendment we tabled. I ask him to clarify that.

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: The amendment states, "In page 39, to delete lines 9 to 11 and substitute the following:".

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: I know we have gone through amendment by amendment but I am not much clearer as to how the Department intends to deal with these minors. Perhaps the Minister of State could explain what he means by not accepting the amendments. The issue here is about unaccompanied minors coming in, the competency of people to interview them and having the proper training in place. I ask him to talk us...

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Could the Minister of State possibly respond to the question I asked?

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: I am glad the Minister of State has absolute confidence, because I do not, based on the way things are going so far. Concerns have been raised with us that the Bill makes no provisions for the training, qualification and skills of personnel engaged in the protection procedure. Although section 62 empowers the chairperson to convene a meeting to make provision for training programmes, there...

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: We are dealing with a group including amendments Nos. 6 to 8, inclusive, 19, 20 and 26.

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: I move amendment No. 8:In page 10, between lines 26 and 27, to insert the following:" "separated child" means a child under the age of 18, who is outside his or her country of nationality or, if a stateless person, outside his or her country of habitual residence and who is separated from both parents, or from his or her previous legal or customary caregiver;".

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: A point of order.

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: That is okay. When we resume I would like to raise a point of order.

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Ba mhaith liom-----

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: On a point of order, with all due respect to the House, to the Minister of State and to all those involved in the debate, I call on the Leader to consider amending the Order of Business for the House. The debate is in complete disarray because of the mix-up with the groupings and the lack of continuity in the debate. I do not think that it is fair to the people who will be affected by the...

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: On a point of order, I ask the Leader for clarification. We have lost about an hour of the debate and there are a great number of amendments. Can the time lost be added to the amount of time allocated to debate the legislation on Monday? If that were agreed, we would not lose any time on this matter.

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: On a point of order, there will no Order of Business on Monday so I cannot do so on that day.

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: With all due respect and on a point of order, it is unacceptable for us to have been given the wrong groupings to date. We have worked away on them and done our homework based on the groupings we were given. We have had a very confusing debate and it is unacceptable that the House has been treated in this manner.

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: I move amendment No. 9:In page 10, between lines 34 and 35, to insert the following:“ “stateless person” means a person who is not considered as a national by any state under the operation of its law;”. A number of different organisations with which we have had discussion on this area have raised concerns about the issue of statelessness. I note that the Irish...

Seanad: International Protection Bill 2015: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2015)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: I welcome that clarification because senior officials from the Department of Social Protection attended a meeting of the Joint Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions about two weeks ago and they had not been given the go-ahead from the Department of Justice and Equality on those payments at that stage. That would be welcome and it is high time it happened. I concur with the...

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