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Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: That money is specifically ring-fenced for those projects.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: I appreciate the detail the witnesses have given on the board, how it is elected and its membership. In view of the recognition of the board that it must be more expansive and in view of the current problems, I respectfully suggest the board members should resign and allow a new grouping to take up the reins. It will be to the advantage of the CRC. Unlike others, I have had a personal...

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: The top-up payments to Mr. Kiely have been discussed at length. I understand a number of other people are getting top-up payments. Can Mr. Nugent say either who they are or the positions they hold and why it was considered necessary to give them extra remuneration over what the other members of staff received, which would be in line with State payment policy?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: What positions are those and how much are the top-ups for those positions?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: While the list is being-----

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: Why was it considered necessary to give those particular people top-ups and not others who, I am sure, were working to their full capacity as well?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: Does Mr. Nugent believe, with hindsight in the current circumstances, that those top-ups were morally justifiable, given the impact it is having on the funding coming to the CRC from voluntary sources and, indeed, by extension, to other charitable organisations?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: I mean "Yes" or "No".

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: Mr. Nugent is not answering the question about whether it was morally justifiable-----

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: Could the CRC not ask them to give up their extra payment voluntarily? Has that been done?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: I am referring to the people who were getting salaries in excess of the HSE guidelines.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: Would Mr. Nugent consider doing so, given the very negative impact this has had on an organisation which does such good work and the extending damage it does to other charitable organisations which have nothing to do with this directly? I ask him to consider that question.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: I appreciate that. Judges were asked to take a reduction and, in fairness, a small number did.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: If they voluntarily agreed, they would not be pursuing the CRC in that regard. I have a query about adult services. I worked in the Clondalkin facility, which included a school and clinical services. At a certain stage, moves were made to introduce adult services. I am not sure of the year but it was around 2003. I understand a grant was given by the HSE to do this and a building went...

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: Yes. Mr. Kiely might be able to throw some light on it because he would have been the chief executive.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: Could a written report be sent to the committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: At the time it caused a great deal of distress, because it was a very good idea to try to provide adult services.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: I thank the witnesses for coming before the committee. In particular I thank Mr. Kiely for coming in. I was a teacher in a school under CRC management and I am very concerned that the organisation should emerge stronger from this issue. I am very aware of the very important work that so many people do in the organisation from the ground up. I know how hard-working and dedicated are most...

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: Is that right across the organisation?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Robert Dowds: I am aware of one organisation that has not been informed of events, at least as of the day before yesterday. Why was the job not publicly advertised?

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