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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: We might need to get the Comptroller and Auditor General more staff.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: It is very difficult for this committee to talk about any of these issues. Our job is to examine systems, practices and procedures and costs to the State. I am conscious that the most important issue is the cost to the women involved, of which we are all aware and conscious. We have a specific role in that regard. It might seem cold to people listening, but we can and have to examine...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Senator Reilly?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: We can only tie our own hands. We have a very clear remit and we should do stay within that but I completely agree with Teachta Farrell that we should not trespass on the work of any other committee's remit. With regard to the sectoral committees, the Minister for Health is responsible to the Joint Committee on Health and the Accounting Officer is responsible to the Committee of Public...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: We should have a two-pronged approach. I recommend that we do it next Thursday if we can, not with standing whatever else we have to do, because of the importance of this matter. Second, irrespective of what the Joint Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach does - good luck to it, it has its role - we have a wider remit and we should invite in the State Claims...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: When one reads the circular and juxtaposes it with how Vicky Phelan has been treated-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: -----it does not sit well with me. We need to notify the State Claims Agency that we want meet with it. Second is the obvious failures in the systems, practices and procedures that date right back to the outsourcing.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: That is a matter for the HSE and all of the officials who have knowledge of and responsibility for that. There are many issues and we should arrange a meeting with the State Claims Agency Many and the HSE, either a morning or an afternoon session. I want both of the entities to attend, in terms of our remit.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Other committees will do their work.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: The Dáil will do its work.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: There will be statements, parliamentary questions and topical issues. The Committee of Public Accounts has its remit and if we stick with that then we will be doing our job.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: I have a proposal that we meet next Thursday with the HSE, the officials who have responsibility for CervicalCheck and the State Claims Agency.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Can we defer our meeting with the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: The secretariat can take guidance from us.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: This is our committee.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: As worthy as those issues are, they are not life and death matters.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Yes. We must prioritise these issues.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Have we not agreed to write to the agency and HSE inviting them to attend next Thursday?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: I am not sure there is a level of coherence surrounding the third level education issues.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Will we receive it in advance?

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