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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes, on the same day. I am sorry about the lack of clarity in regard to the decision that was made at the last meeting. I will speak to the Vice Chairman about that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: He will have to go on another course.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Do not keep repeating that. The press is there. Next week's business is Vote 37 - chapter 10 - regularity of social welfare payments; chapter 11, control of supplementary welfare allowances; and chapter 12, farm assist and Social Insurance Fund 2013. As I said earlier, within that Vote there is the funding of MABS and the reporting procedures within it. With that agreed we move to today's...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes, we are in the process of organising that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: That will be available the week after next.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Not as yet but we have asked.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes. As I said at the start of the meeting, the clerk will have the dossier made available to us. When the members receive it, maybe we will have an informal meeting about it again. It will then be made available to the Department officials before they come in. As part of that, there is a video which is available to members to look at. If members indicate to the clerk when they are...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: We can get a copy for the Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: It depends on the size of the-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: It is available. We have agreed to that. We move on to today's business and ask the witnesses to attend.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2013
Chapter 2 - Government Debt and Finance Accounts 2013
(14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: I ask members, witnesses and those in the Public Gallery to turn off their mobile telephones as they interfere with the transmission and sound quality of the meeting. I advise witnesses that they are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the evidence they are to give this committee. If they are directed by the committee to cease giving evidence on a particular matter and they...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2013
Chapter 2 - Government Debt and Finance Accounts 2013
(14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: I wish you well.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2013
Chapter 2 - Government Debt and Finance Accounts 2013
(14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Mr. Terry Walsh from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform is also present. I invite the Comptroller and Auditor General to give his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2013
Chapter 2 - Government Debt and Finance Accounts 2013
(14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. McCarthy. I invite Mr. Moran to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2013
Chapter 2 - Government Debt and Finance Accounts 2013
(14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: May we publish Mr. Moran's statement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2013
Chapter 2 - Government Debt and Finance Accounts 2013
(14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: For clarification, is it that the witnesses do not have the figures with them today, or is it that they do not know them at all?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2013
Chapter 2 - Government Debt and Finance Accounts 2013
(14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: If they do not have them, can they go outside and make a telephone call and get them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2013
Chapter 2 - Government Debt and Finance Accounts 2013
(14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: I propose to take a break after Deputy Perry’s contribution.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2013
Chapter 2 - Government Debt and Finance Accounts 2013
(14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: As we agreed earlier, we are going to have a break now and will resume in half an hour.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2013
Chapter 2 - Government Debt and Finance Accounts 2013
(14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: I call Deputy McDonald.

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