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Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are dealing with Vote 34 - Department of Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government. We are again joined by Mr. John McCarthy, Secretary General, and officials from his Department, namely, Ms Maria Graham, Ms Mary Hurley, Mr. David Walsh, Mr. Maurice Coughlan, Ms Nina Murray, Ms Theresa Donohue, Ms Janet Jacobs. We are joined from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform by...

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Can I clarify a matter?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Secretary General has used the term "capital assistance scheme". People here who work in the system will understand the term but I ask him to explain what it means for the benefit of the viewers and the public.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: I thank the Secretary General. Deputy Farrell, I am sorry for the interruption.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Peter Burke is next.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have raised this issue by way of parliamentary question and received zero answer on it. The issue is as follows and it relates to the current mortgage-to-rent scheme. A pilot scheme was being looked at after the last mortgage-to-rent scheme was up and running. At the end of the pilot scheme, they will do a handful and in another year they might roll out some more. Ms Murray has answered...

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: If somebody wants to do 1,000 units, is that feasible under the pilot scheme or is there a limit to the number of houses being considered initially?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: What figure, approximately?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Keep going.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Which section is it?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Mr. McCarthy got the list of issues on which the Deputy asked them to come back regarding the people who have left the HAP scheme.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Just in case it is glanced over now, the request has been made by the committee.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is exactly the topic of the next meeting. We have PPPs, the Department of Finance and-----

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: -----the Department of Education and Skills.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is the sole item on the agenda on 22 March. We will have all the people in that the Deputy is talking about.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: The accounts show there was an overspend of €62.357 million on local authority housing. I presume a lot of that was on purchases because the Department was not building a lot.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. McCarthy send us a detailed note, because he has it in his folder, about the three PPPs that are in train, the one that is at procurement-----

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: The three different projects Mr. McCarthy mentioned, the three different bundles.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34: Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government (8 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. McCarthy send a detailed note to the committee?

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