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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: While I understand that, Mr. Fraser is answerable for the way in which the money was spent and what process was used.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: He found no evidence in his examination of any political interference. Is that what he is saying?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: That is fine. I will move on to the cost. How much was spent on advertising Project Ireland 2040?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Does Mr. Fraser have a breakdown of that spending?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: The figure in the public domain was €1.5 million.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: There was a budget of €1.5 million and €750,000 was spent. On what specifically was the €750,000 spent? On what stages of the process was the money spent?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Was the majority of this money spent before or after the report was finalised and published?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: I have a response to a parliamentary question tabled by my colleague, Deputy Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, which states that at pre-draft consultation stage of Project Ireland 2040, costs of €60,000 were incurred on advertising-related activities and a further €70,000 was incurred at the draft stage. This would not account for the majority of the €750,000 figure. How much...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: This reply was issued on 20 March 2018.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Okay, but-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: I ask Mr. Fraser to bear with me for a second while I explain what specifically I am looking for. In the case of Project 2040, there was a pre-draft stage and a draft stage before the completed document was presented with bells and whistles. According to a response to a parliamentary question that I have received, the strategic communications unit spent €60,000 at the pre-draft stage...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: That is why I am asking for a breakdown. I can read the response to the parliamentary question again. Maybe Mr. Fraser should read what he has.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: That is a great breakdown of how it was spent but it does not tell us at what stage it was spent, which is the question I am asking. I will ask it again.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Okay. Will I go again? There was a pre-draft stage and a draft stage before the report was published. Mr. Fraser will have to give me a breakdown in response to my question. I would have expected-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: I am referring to Project 2040.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: Maybe I will read the response to the parliamentary question in full. It might be helpful to Mr. Fraser and the rest of us.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: The Minister, Deputy Eoghan Murphy, was responding in March of this year.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

David Cullinane: His reply stated:Public participation and consultation was a key element in developing the National Planning Framework since preparatory work began on developing the framework in late 2014. There have been two formal phases of public consultation, including the publication of an Issues and Choices paper over February/March 2017 and the publication of a...

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