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Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: In February 2010, Complete Eco Solutions was established and three months old. Ms Kerins had almost pre-emptively set out her family involvement in it. However, there is no mention in the minutes of a disclosure of Mr. Flannery's interest in the company.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Does Mr. Hogan consider this to be an important fact of which Rehab should have been made aware?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Was Mr. Flannery on the board of directors of any of Rehab's subsidiary companies in 2009 or 2010?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: I appreciate that, but what of the subsidiary boards?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: From memory, which boards?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: I thank Mr. Poole. Given the fact that he occupied directorships on Rehab's subsidiaries, we can take it that Rehab ought to have been informed of his interest in Complete Eco Solutions.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Mr. Hogan is aware that the company had three directors - Mr. Flannery, Ms Kerins's brother and her husband. Sin é.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: I appreciate that from the minutes, but I put it to Mr. Hogan that his information was incomplete and that he was unaware of Mr. Flannery's interest in the company. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: We will move on to a note Rehab has supplied on a board meeting held on 25 March 2010, a month later. It tells us that Ms Kerins stepped out of the meeting. By this point, an order had been placed, the first shipment was due and a website was to be set up. Mr. Poole asked whether the supplier was approached to reduce prices in light of the changed market conditions, etc. To complete the...

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Was there a second shipment?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Were the total moneys paid over to Complete Eco Solutions for that shipment €70,000?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Somewhere in that region.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is that the only money that was paid to Complete Eco Solutions?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Was there a controversy among Mr. Poole's financial controllers over the paying out of that money to Complete Eco Solutions?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Did he refuse to sign the cheque?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: On what basis was he refusing to sign the cheque?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: If Mr. Poole does not mind, I will surmise why that gentleman refused to sign the cheque. Instead of importing materials directly, Rehab chose to use a third party. It looks like a company, namely, Complete Eco Solutions, was formed for that express purpose. Those who had ownership of and an interest in that company were closely related to the then CEO and another was a director of some of...

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: The gentleman present are all welcome and I thank them for their attendance. While it has been stated previously, I reiterate the members' disappointment that neither Mr. Flannery nor Ms Kerins is joining this meeting. The committee very much hopes this can be put to rights and members will see them sometime soon. I will stick with the coffins if I may and with the permission of Mr. Kerr,...

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Can I get clarification from someone who was on the board that Complete Eco Solutions was the company in question with which the discussions had been had and in respect of which Ms Kerins made her disclosure on 29 November 2009?

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