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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: -----that the unions and the staff welcomed the setting up of this group, the terms of reference and the personnel on the group.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: These people have not done reports. These were set up explicitly and specifically-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: -----for this.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: I agree with the Deputy on that, which is why an independent group is carrying out this investigation and why it has been well received by the staff and the unions.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: I absolutely agree with the Senator. I said at the beginning that invaluable work has been done by the two committees, but we need to chart a path forward now as what we could lose is too valuable to our democracy and society. What I said earlier was that, on the higher level, I would like to see a vision of a trustworthy broadcaster that provides quality content that reflects the diversity...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: That is where the ongoing engagement with staff is critical. I will raise it with the director general again this week, as I have at every meeting. The message needs to be that what we are looking for is, as I said, not imposing cuts for the sake of being seen to cut but rather stopping the waste and inefficiencies that have been identified and using the money to invest where needed to...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: I agree. There is an onus on each Member of the Oireachtas to help to chart the way forward and move things on, as the Senator is doing.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: The dual-funded model is the issue.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: RTÉ is obliged to set out exactly how it allocates its TV licence funding. There is clarity on that. It is set out in its annual report, so we have clarity on where that money goes. It shows a breakdown in expenditure for public service activities, individual channels or services and how much of the TV licence funding is allocated to each service. We have clarity on that. Although...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: You are absolutely right to make that point. That is the direct relationship with me and RTÉ - it is through the chair - and it is quite astounding that that is-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: Well, I have to take her at her word, but what this points to is astounding, astonishing weaknesses.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: I have to take Ms Doherty at her word, that she would respect the Oireachtas, including this joint committee, and-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: Yes, and the-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: And the title points to that, but also in the-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: Yes, I would be confident of that, but also, it added to the confusion in the first few weeks-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: -----that there were two boards and people were trying to grapple with it.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: Yes. What I see now is that complete breakdown in respect for each other, the executive board and the board, respect for the board that comes under me, with the direct relationship with the chair. I have seen that turned around completely, a full 360°, in what I am seeing with the DG and the chair. There is a strong relationship and they have put in measures to help strengthen the...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: Yes.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: Yes. There was a lot of disquiet about that at the time. I am aware of that. That is why I am glad the audit and risk committee of the board commissioned the Grant Thornton report to carry out a detailed review into the full circumstances. We need to get to the bottom of this and the facts surrounding the approval of that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: The committee will have that in the coming weeks.

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