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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: That is beyond our remit, as the Deputy knows. He could be Minister.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I did not have to be won around anywhere.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: On that point, it would not be fair to say the members of the committee were of that view in the context of health. We recognise that health is a public service and that the people who work in it deserve tremendous credit, not just for their professional commitment but also for the work they do outside that and the care they give to patients and each other. It is a bit unfair to say that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Yes. It is also before the meeting. It is important to do it. It is also important that we ask the HSE to engage meaningfully with the INMO, notwithstanding that the committee does not have a role in industrial relations. It behoves all of us to ensure that those who work as and represent front-line staff in particular are engaged with properly by the HSE, which is the responsible body....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I want to call Ms Geraldine Talty and Ms Claire Mahon who have indicated.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I call Ms Claire Mahon and then Ms Geraldine Talty. I invite Ms Talty to proceed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I call Ms Claire Mahon.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I am conscious that Ms Grace Murphy is here and had not spoken. She is free to contribute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: We have quarter of an hour remaining.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Yes, Deputy Regina Doherty will be back.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Up to now, what experience did a nurse need before taking up such a post?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Is it safe assume that there was joined-up thinking between the Secretary General at the Department and the HSE? Would the Department have read and known that this was done?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Has that process commenced? Has there been communication with the INMO on it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Can Ms Mahon give members an example of who would question that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Deputy Ó Caoláin and, as I said at the end of my remarks, this committee will consider its response when it has heard all the evidence. I acknowledge there are no representatives of the HSE here today and due process demands we hear from all concerned parties. Today we will listen to the guests in attendance.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Senator van Turnhout and I will now call Mr. Doran.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: If members wish to intervene they should do so but we must leave this committee room by 1.30 p.m. Perhaps Mr. Doran could keep his answers short as he was given latitude with the opening statements.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: If that was the case five years ago and Mr. Doran's remarks are correct then this issue is not just a matter of resources.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Before I call on Deputy Ó Caoláin, I should acknowledge the presence of Oona Sugrue in the public gallery. I apologise for missing out her name earlier.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Revised Implementation Measures under Haddington Road Agreement: INMO (17 Jun 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I welcome Ms Claire Mahon, INMO president, Ms Geraldine Talty, second vice-president, and Ms Grace Murphy, who represents undergraduate student nurses. I also acknowledge the presence of Ms Helen Butler, Ms Karen Clarke, Mr. Darren Ó Cearúill, Ms Mary Walsh and Ms Phil Ní Sheaghdha in the public gallery. The committee has no role in negotiations on behalf of any organisation...

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