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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: What was the cost of each?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: No, I mean for each element.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: You said there were four elements.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: There were two contracts for insourcing.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: Okay. Both of those were €874,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: What about the outsourcing?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: That was €3.6 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: What about the call centre?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: What includes that?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: Mr. Ó Foghlú is saying that it is only one of these that refers to the Comptroller and Auditor General's report.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: I call Deputy Collins.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: I call Deputy Áine Collins.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: I will take the witnesses back to the beginning. I am finding it difficult to comprehend the explanations that are being given this morning, relative to what I perceive to be the reality. This started in 2005 and I can go back prior to that because things had to be established before they started taking off. Stakeholders were consulted. There was preparation of a proposal for the...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: Was this the Department of Education and Skills operating in 2010 on the outcome of a policy, or was it being driven partly by the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: It was a joint venture.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: It was a joint venture.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: The Department of Education and Skills was driving and the Department of Finance was assisting. Is that right? When was the panel that set about the selection process formed? Who was on that panel?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: Pat McLoughlin was the chair. What was his qualification?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: What organisation?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 88 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Restructuring the Administration of Student Grants (11 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: He is, therefore, pretty familiar with the Civil Service and public service. Who else is on it?

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