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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: The engagement was in relation to the funding. I stated that I was very disappointed that I was not told about the restoration of executives' pay while I was in the process of engaging with RTÉ about interim funding last year. That was a big disappointment and not good enough, to come and seek money while restoring pay and not making me aware of that while I was negotiating with the...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: Absolutely. I engaged with the Chair of this committee on foot of feedback from the committee. I said I was committed to keeping that engagement with the chair, emphasising that RTÉ needed to engage with the committee in a very transparent manner. In relation to those salaries, it is not a matter for me to engage in that sort of micro-managing of salaries. That is why I would not...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: I was aware that she had been suspended and that she resigned but it is not-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: Yes but it is not the resignation but ill health that has prevented her from participating in this committee. I have been very clear that she needs to participate in and engage with this committee as soon as she returns to good health. A key figure like her is needed to shed light on this situation.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: Her term was due to expire in early July either way. I hope that there will be engagement when she returns to good health.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: We do not have that detail yet. I can raise it with the director general. I will meet him again this week.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: No. That is not for me to do; it is for Revenue.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: No.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: That would not be communicated with me. I have not received any communication.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: If Deputy Griffin is aware of something he can bring it to our attention.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: I am just saying I have not been. The Deputy may have some awareness of something, if he wants to bring it to my attention.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: It has not been brought to my attention. I do not think Revenue would bring that to my attention either.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: It has not arisen, no. I will meet the chair this week.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: I will get back to the committee about that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: As I said in my opening address, it is clear that there has been a shocking level of failure in governance and culture in RTÉ. That is why I have set in place two expert committees. It is not for me, as Minister, to direct revenue. On the governance issue, an expert advisory group is in place and it is looking at RTÉ's governance framework and organisational culture, is examining...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: That is exactly why I have two expert groups in place. The Deputy is asking me who is going to get to the bottom of it. I moved to do this in 48 hours. To address specifically what the Deputy has raised, I put a particular emphasis on gender equality in respect of the HR and contractor fees. I asked the group in the terms of reference to put a particular emphasis on gender equality. I...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: The Deputy is seeking an investigation and I am saying that it is happening. It is under way, it is independent and it has experts.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: I inform the Deputy that these are independent reports. RTÉ is not doing them. I have set up independent experts. I know that the Deputy has genuine concerns for the staff. The staff and the trade unions welcomed the expert committee that is specifically dealing with this, have welcomed this report and are looking forward to its recommendations.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: We have someone from outside Ireland on one of those expert groups, Stephen Smith.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: RTÉ Oversight and Long-Term Support and Funding: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (4 Oct 2023)

Catherine Martin: That is why I put in somebody from outside and I would point out to the Deputy again-----

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