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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: When Mrs. Justice McGuinness has finished responding, I will bring in Ms Cox.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I suspect he would.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I call Ms Cox.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Is Deputy Ó Laoghaire okay with this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Does the Deputy have further questions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: But Mrs. Justice McGuinness used the opportunity well. Deputy Ó Laoghaire has noted it very well too.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Mrs. Justice McGuinness is not getting the first bite at it this time. She may respond in a moment. Mrs. O'Reilly has taken up the cudgels.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Would Family Carers Ireland like to reflect on that point? It is interesting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Just as the initial focus was on Mrs. Justice McGuinness, I invite her to make a further comment before we revert to Senator Clifford-Lee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Would Senator Clifford-Lee like to add anything?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I will ask each witness to reply to the questions that were put to them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Would anybody else like to pick up on Deputy Clare Daly's points?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I noted what the Deputy said about the quality of the contributions and that she felt almost robbed of questions. The thought crossed my mind that, in our earlier session this morning, the Minister, who was present, would have loved the Deputy to have said that to him. Unfortunately, it did not happen.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Would Ms Canning or Ms Roche like to offer a view?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Perhaps Ms O'Reilly would like to add that it is not within her domain. I can see Mrs. Justice McGuinness out there campaigning.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Not at all, no.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I thank the Deputy. Is everyone happy that he or she has communicated what he or she came to say? I have no doubt everyone has, but I thought I would offer the opportunity in any event. It is fair to reflect. I fully agree with what Deputy Wallace and others said about the decision to have pre-legislative scrutiny. It was the right decision. We thank the Business Committee for the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Deputy Wallace should not target Deputy O'Callaghan. Without further ado, and before I thank the witnesses, I wish to welcome some people who are in the Visitors Gallery. I thank Ms Caroline Spring from the Department of Justice and Equality for being present. I also welcome both Mr. Eamonn Fahey and Ms Nur Nadiah Binte Zailani from the ESRI. On behalf of the committee, I thank each of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Yes, we go back a long way. She was in the chair at one time when I had to go before her, not in a court I wish to add.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Thirty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Role of Women) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Sep 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: We were on a peace project.

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