Results 14,361-14,380 of 26,610 for speaker:David Cullinane
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: I have one observation on that. I fully agree with the proposal. On a point of clarification, however, I understand there were a number of legal people involved in the conference call that was referred to. Were there not?
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: Was it subject to privilege?
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: I am only pre-empting what the response might be. Given that legal people were party to the conference call-----
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: Is Deputy Kelly saying they should be brought in also?
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: Whether they come in or not, I am just trying to-----
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: May I make a point on that?
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: My only point is that our quarrel, issue or source of contention concerns the individual from the State Claims Agency who answered the questions and Mr. Gleeson. The more people we involve, including legal people, the more difficult we could make it for ourselves to have a meeting. I am just saying we need to consider this carefully so we will not be cut off at the pass.
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: That is fine.
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: In private session, can we have a discussion around the wider issue of what led to the circular being issued and the decision-making on open disclosure? These are important issues and deal with what Teachta Kelly said earlier.
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: Can we postpone correspondence and deal with it early?
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: Was I leaving prematurely?
- Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: Why was it planned? What triggered the planning of looking into these areas?
- Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: Basically, the trigger or motivation for doing the audit was not so much that internal audit took the view there might be issues, but rather that a considerable amount of money would be spent. Many changes were happening and internal audit wanted to see whether there were any issues, but the section was not aware that there were any issues.
- Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: The Garda internal audit section has an audit committee. Is that correct?
- Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: How many people sit on the committee?
- Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: What is their job?
- Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: What is the purpose of having an audit committee?
- Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: Let us consider what Mr. Kelly found in his audit report. It was not all a question of lack of assurance. Mr. Kelly could give assurance in some areas, to be fair. However, in areas where he was unable to give assurance, it was because he found problems.
- Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: Had Mr. Kelly not planned this audit for the reasons he did, he would not have come across these issues. How could the issues that Mr. Kelly was not in a position to give us assurance on have been missed by the internal audit section through its routine work?
- Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)
David Cullinane: I do not think that is a fair answer. The internal audit section planned to do the audits because more money would be spent. If more money was not to be spent or if those changes were not about to take place, internal audit may not have carried out the planned audits specifically looking into ICT. Is that accurate?