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Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Do the UK authorities not do the same north of the Border?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: The issue is to do with security.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Are these operators bringing fuel across the Border?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: The point I am making is that what is happening is apparently very obvious. It seems we are talking about truck loads of fuel and any observer could see the movement of the tanker trucks. I am asking whether Revenue is able to stop these vehicles.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Can Revenue not stop a truck that is supplying illicit fuel?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: The reason I am pursuing the matter is that we are constantly lobbied about it by the Small Firms Association, the Irish Road Haulage Association and concerned individuals. The point they all make is that while legitimate businesses throughout the country are targeted for VAT, income tax, corporation tax or whatever, in the case of those actors in the shadow economy who are operating at a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: That is the point. Revenue set out to trace the activities of people in this area of the shadow economy, namely, those who trade in laundered diesel. I am concerned about hauliers who are conducting their legitimate businesses and paying tax to the Revenue. I must confess that my background is in haulage and I still have an interest in it. What annoys many hauliers and those retailers who...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: What about the national bodies that represent retailers of one kind or another which continue to highlight this matter to us? Does the Revenue engage with them-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: -----in the same way that Mr. Cody has this morning in terms of passing on information as to how the organisation does its work?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Is it not the case that in towns throughout the country there are, for want of a better term, "franchise operators" selling illegal cigarettes - on an organised basis - on behalf of the big suppliers?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: People can buy cigarettes from these individuals on the main street. Then they move on to the next main street. Revenue can put its dogs into An Post, into any warehouse in the country or into my warehouse and they are welcome to sniff around, because that is the job they do, but many traders cannot understand why some of these known individuals, who can be seen on the street, cannot be...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Deputy Perry asked how Revenue disposed of all this stuff but what about cash? It seized €906,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Where is it from? How do you get to the point of seizing someone's cash?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: People bring in money.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: That comes to the State after the court has dealt with the issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: On aged debt, the money owed to Revenue, what money is owed the longest? When does Revenue decide it is not economically viable to pursue it and it should be written off? It was said the figure was €778 million.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: That is not likely to be collected.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Does it take that long to go through the appeals?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Does Mr. Cody have an average figure for write-offs every year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Can we have some of those charts?

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