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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: What is a long period? Is that fair to ask?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: That is not on today's agenda.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: It is not on our agenda, to be fair. We are talking about section 38 and section 39 organisations.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I will allow the Deputy raise the issue of car parking at our next quarterly meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I would like to remind the Deputy that she is straying. I say that to protect the Deputy and the committee. There is a matter before the courts as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: That is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I welcome Deputy Fitzpatrick back after his recent injury. I hope he is recovering.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Would the witnesses prefer to respond to the questions that have been asked now, or are they prepared to hear the two remaining speakers at this stage?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Okay. We will take Deputies Regina Doherty and Catherine Byrne now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Mr. O'Brien referred to the non-standardised approach and he referred to the period prior to the establishment of the HSE. Prior to the establishment of the HSE, the health boards were the agents of the State. Who is culpable for allowing that non-standardised approach? As Deputy Ó Caoláin said, if only 47 organisations out of 143 have ceased and the internal audit review...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: By the Department?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I appreciate the role played by Mr. O'Brien which has been significant.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Is that small number 67?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: What has been the response to that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I will take speakers in groups of three so I will now revert to Ms McGuinness.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Why did it take so long for the information to come to light? Let us take the example of the HIQA investigation which brought the information to light, if it is as hands-on as Ms McGuinness suggests, how did we allow a situation to evolve where there was a piecemeal approach taken and suddenly we are in the middle of a crisis, which does nobody any good?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I remind everybody present that mobile phones should be switched off for the duration of the meeting as they interfere with the broadcasting of our proceedings. I welcome viewers who are watching on UPC channel 207 and those who are watching live on the Oireachtas website. Today's meeting is our final committee meeting of the Dáil session. I welcome Mr. Denis McKenna who has joined...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive (22 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I ask Ms McGuinness to make her opening remarks.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Update on Children and Youth Issues: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (17 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank the Minister, Mr. Breslin, Ms Hogan and Mr. Savage for attending. We wish the Minister well in his tenure. We hope he has a very successful time in the Department. We might discuss Senator van Turnhout's comment again in terms of how we can have engagement with the Child and Family Agency.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Update on Children and Youth Issues: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (17 Jul 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: That is a matter for the Department of Health, not the Department of Children and Youth Affairs.

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