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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: It will be noted and published. We will return to it at our next meeting. No. 3B.3 is correspondence dated 5 June 2015, from Mr. Patrick Coughlan, Mullingar, County Westmeath. We dealt with this matter earlier which relates to the investors in Castlemartyr resort. I ask that the letter be forwarded to NAMA for its comments, in particular in view of the three main contentions of Mr....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: What is the figure on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: How was that compensation calculated?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: Is that something that a supplier would have to apply for?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: They are automatically obliged.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: Does that €9 million cover a period, 2013-2014?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: That is €9 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: It is extraordinary that the legislation would by and large be ignored and that, as the clock was ticking, it was running up a cost of €9 million and nobody felt it necessary to cry stop and pay the suppliers. It beggars belief as to the state of the management within the HSE. They are called into serious question over it. It is a matter that we can deal with when the HSE is before...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: That is arising from the request this morning. Therefore, that will be expanded. Is there any other business?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: The Dáil will go into summer recess soon after that but if Deputy Costello has any issues with or suggestions on the work programme, he can always contact the clerk to the committee. As there is no other business, we will list the agenda for Thursday, 25 June, as the 2013 Appropriation Accounts: Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government, Chapter 5 - Central Government...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: Before we begin, I remind members, witnesses and those in the public gallery that they should turn off their mobile phones. The mobiles interfere with the sound quality and transmission of the meeting. I advise witnesses that they are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the evidence they are to give to the committee. However, if they are directed by the committee to cease...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: The Chief State Solicitor's office is represented.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: I ask the Comptroller and Auditor General to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: Before I call Deputy Connaughton, I seek clarification on a point made in your opening statement. You said: "Unfortunately a great deal of the information provided to the committee at that meeting was untrue". This would suggest that the Committee of Public Accounts was deliberately misled or that we were told lies. You also said you would provide whatever additional information we need on...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: You did not provide a written response other than make that comment to the general statements made by other individuals before the Committee of Public Accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: I will not go into that now but will you provide the committee, in a timely fashion, with a point-by-point rebuttal?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: We can then look at it. Should members wish to raise any aspect of this today, they can do so. Thank you for that clarification. May we publish your opening statement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: The Department did not apologise.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: Stop dressing it up then. Mr. O'Driscoll should either apologise or not.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John McGuinness: Do not dress something up as an apology when it is not one and do not say, "I don't know what I'm apologising for". I would certainly offer an apology if I knew what it was about. If Mr. O'Driscoll does not know what it is about, he should tell Deputy McDonald.

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