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Seanad: Address by Mr. Jean-Claude Juncker, President of the European Commission (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: Hear, hear.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: That will be the Chairman's legacy.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: Can we scroll down to this for a second?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: In the discussion we had with that body, its representatives said that the CCPC had basically given Nursing Homes Ireland a clean bill of health. I made the point that it did not resolve the question of whether issues of price fixing were discussed by Nursing Homes Ireland but were never actioned. Because they were never actioned, no action could be taken by the CCPC. It actually states...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: I am on paragraph with the heading, NOW NHI AND THE CCPC HEREBY AGREE AS FOLLOWS. It states "NHI hereby confirms that NHI and, to the best of its knowledge, its members did not at any stage implement any collective actions..." Therefore we know it did not implement any, but the question was whether it was discussed. The document continues to state: "NHI hereby undertakes..." All of the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: We can finally move on and bookend that one.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: On that one-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: I do not know if a written question was sent by the clerk to the committee or the secretariat to the HSE but we had already received the laboratory data for 2013-16 when its representatives appeared before the committee. We were looking for the laboratory data from 2008-12, which we have not received.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: The HSE sent us data we already had in answer to our question, and that is playing games. The Accounting Officer stated that the HSE would send us the data we were seeking as quickly as it could. It is a bit rich to send us data we already have in order to pretend that it was answering the question or providing us with information. We should write back to the HSE in very strong terms. We...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: Where does the HSE state that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: What does "remaining information" mean? When writing to the HSE we must be clear in regard to what we are seeking to avoid any misunderstanding.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: A follow-up call should be made to ensure the HSE knows what we are seeking.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: What is this about?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: It is not in regard to NAMA.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: Institutes of technology cannot borrow. They are not allowed to borrow. They are also not allowed to have deficits. That is the difficulty here. Waterford Institute of Technology is not the only offender, but it would be useful if the committee wrote to the Higher Education Authority to ask for a breakdown of the finances of each institute of technology to ascertain which were in deficit....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: In the case of Waterford Institute of Technology, we should ascertain the up-to-date position. The accounts presented were from 2016. I know that containment measures were put in place, so it may well be out - or close to being out - of deficit.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: We need to know where that money is and if any of it has been recovered.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Jun 2018)

David Cullinane: This shows why there should be greater controls in the foundations.

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