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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: This is a broader issue. With regard to the HSE sanction, all Secretaries General should see what Tony O'Brien did. He said to every funded organisation that unless accounts were submitted on time, there would be a delay in funding until accounts were submitted. All those organisations came into line. What if the Department of Education and Skills were to do that with everybody under its...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Cullinane, and then we will try to move on to the next section.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: I think we should send a letter back to Mr. Watt asking him for the date of when that new circular on official entertainment is going to be updated, telling him we think it is appropriate to develop specific guidelines and that he might commence work on that straight away. The next item of correspondence is No. 1204 from Mr. William Beausang, assistant secretary of the Department of Public...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: On this particular issue I think the public will take some satisfaction from an achievement by the Committee of Public Accounts. Some people ask what actually happens as a result of our meeting. We had the meeting here last year. As long as any of us have been here, we have never seen a post-project review of a public private partnership project. It has not happened. We had quite a...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy is talking about the viability of future projects and the line Department is the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government. I call Deputy Farrell and we will decide in a moment.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Perhaps it could be the other committee in the first instance. Something might come back to us but it is definitely an interesting note. The line Department is probably the more appropriate one at this stage. We will note and publish that. The next item of correspondence is No. 1200C from Mr. Robert Watt, Secretary General, Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, dated 23 March...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: We previously invited the Secretaries General of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and the Department of the Taoiseach along with the head of the unit to appear before us. They are Accounting Officers. That has to happen. The Taoiseach will appear before the Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach at 10 a.m. to deal with the Estimates. No...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: I appreciate that, and best of luck with the report. I heard the Deputy on "Morning Ireland". The strategic communications unit is an item on our agenda and work programme and we will come back to it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: We have it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: The answer is that the Secretary General of the Department of the Taoiseach produced a report. When he appears before us, because he is obliged to do so, we will put that direct question to him.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: A business case was prepared. The Deputy will see that. The Secretary General has since reviewed it. That is a direct question we will put to him because he wrote the report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are not parking it. The invitation is there. It has been issued.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Essentially, the Deputy is talking about a shared services office for procurement of advertising. There are shared services for lots of things in the public service instead of 30 different organisations doing 30 different jobs. Maybe that is where the conversation will lead.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is still on our agenda. The correspondence has been issued and it is an item to which we will return. We will note and publish that documentation. The next item is correspondence No. 1201C from Dr. Barry O'Connor, president of Cork Institute of Technology, dated 23 March 2018, relating to the mergers of technological universities. Dr. O'Connor provides a breakdown of consultancy and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: There are various stages of the process. The committee will publish this item and correspondence No. 1202C from Dr. Oliver Murphy, president of the Institute of Technology, Tralee, in relation to the merger with Cork Institute of Technology. It is the same issue, so I propose that we note and publish these items of correspondence. That concludes that particular item. The next item is...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: The other item we held over from the last day was the University College Cork, UCC, 2016 accounts. There was a qualified audit opinion regarding the pension issue. It did not involve qualification. Highlighted for people's attention were the non-consolidation of the foundation, the non-compliance with national procurement guidelines and the deferred pension funding. Does Mr. McCarthy want...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is the issue of the non-compliance with national procurement guidelines to the tune of €4.4 million included in UCC's statement of internal financial control?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will agree to write to UCC, specifically on non-compliance with national procurement guidelines as mentioned, and for a detailed breakdown.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Absolutely.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Mar 2018)

Seán Fleming: Does the Deputy want the committee to include that issue in the letter to UCC and for it to give us its rationale? We understand it is not legally obliged to do it, but in the interests of public accountability-----

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