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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: I understand there were a couple of elements to it. One element is philanthropic in that you have to raise a certain amount of money. I would like to know the amount of money that is expected to be raised. Second, can we confirm that the national lottery sale fund is now ring-fenced for it? Is Mr. Pollock satisfied that the funding is adequate from both those sources?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: The witnesses can certainly comment on why there was so much impairment relating to the design and planning work that was done. This accrued from work that was done previously on a stand-alone hospital on the Mater hospital site. The stand-alone hospital was to replace Temple Street and the work was carried out prior to the decision on the national paediatric hospital. There were,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: There was an integrated design team. What was its purpose but to bring people together?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: I am not aware that there is a local area plan for the St. James's Hospital area. There is one for the Phibsboro area so the witnesses cannot work to guidelines that do not exist.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: Mr. Costello is referring to the Dublin city plan. How will lessons be learned? How can the witnesses be sure that what they are doing will not result in the same situation that occurred at the Mater hospital? Can the witnesses break down the reasons for the impairment that occurred and the waste of taxpayers' money? These are the statements from 2012 and I think we must seek greater...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: The Comptroller and Auditor General goes on to say there is uncertainty as to the value of the assets.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: There was a process to go through.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: As I said, it appears developers were on the previous board but numerous representatives of the semi-State sector are on the current board. There are no developers,per se, on the current board but there are engineers, architects and so on. There is a representative on the board for Trinity College and Our Lady's Children's Hospital, Crumlin, but nobody carries a brief for the other main...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: I would like to ask some questions. I will follow Deputy Fleming's train of thought as it was very valuable towards the end in regard to the impairment expenditure and the current procurement contracts. At this point in time, we are effectively talking about €40 million that was spent on the previous process in regard to the national paediatric hospital on the Mater site and in the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: We are dealing with the accounts. This is quite a complex-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: I was going to suggest that they come back to us with the detail of the structure.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: They are answering the question, but this is dragging on.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: I am particularly interested in the reply because I have a question that relates specifically to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
2012 Accounts of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board
(23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: I thank Deputy McDonald. I call Deputy Sean Fleming.

Irish Water: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: I thank Deputy Cowen for introducing this Private Members' motion as it gives us an opportunity to discuss this timely matter. Irish Water has not been a success to date as everybody has detailed already. In fact, Irish Water is rapidly becoming an expression of derision countrywide. We can see all the reasons: luxury offices; performance-related bonuses before it even gets properly...

Irish Water: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: That was over a decade.

Irish Water: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: The Deputy Cowen can do the figures.

Irish Water: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: The introduction of water and wastewater charges has come at an unfortunate time, immediately after the departure of the troika and the first recovery budget. One can understand that after those years of austerity, our hard-pressed citizens feel mugged when they thought there was light at the end of the tunnel. One of the canards is that water is a basic human right and, therefore, it should...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: I agree. Where public moneys are concerned we should always seek to ensure they are properly accounted for. There are question marks over Positive Action which should be explored and clarified. I would like to see the organisation before this committee as well. I wish to query another body that is about to be liquidated.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Oct 2014)

Joe Costello: I wish to mention another body that is about to be liquidated, the Dublin Docklands Development Authority. The organisation is not listed on our draft programme. Has the committee received a reply on when it is likely to be available?

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