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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: It is now 2.20 p.m., if the Minister wishes to leave.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: We shall resume.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: There is a vote in the Dáil.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I will take questions from Senator van Turnhout before we suspend for the vote.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I am conscious that a vote is imminent in the Dáil. At least nine speakers have indicated their wish to contribute. Mr. O'Brien is leaving at 2 o'clock, and the Minister has another engagement. I know it is unfair on Members but I ask them to be concise in asking their questions rather than making pronouncements. I will take members in the following order: Senator Burke, Deputy...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: In fairness, there are six other members waiting for questions to be answered.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: There is one Chairman.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: We are not playing to the gallery in the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy spoke for eight minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: If the question has not been answered, I will allow the Deputy to speak at the end of the meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: With respect, eight members have been waiting since 9.30 this morning as members of the committee. I will invite Deputy Clare Daly to contribute at the end of the meeting if her question has not been answered. That is the custom in this committee. If members' questions have not been answered, we bring them in at the end of the segment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I am sorry to interrupt the Deputy, but I wish to advise Senators that there is a vote in the Seanad.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I will now call on the Minister and Mr. O'Brien to respond in the appropriate order.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Just a moment. There is a vote due in the Dáil at 1 o'clock and Mr. O'Brien has to leave us at 2 p.m. I ask members of the committee to acknowledge that in their contributions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: For the record, it was agreed by the committee at the beginning of the current Dáil that each member would have seven minutes of speaking time at each quarterly meeting. We can revise the requirements for all meetings at another date if members wish. As Deputy Clare Daly is the only member from the Technical Group in attendance, I will allow her to jump in before Senator Jillian van...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I appreciate that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I call Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin who has seven minutes in which to contribute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: For the record, the Minister spoke for six minutes, while Mr. O'Brien spoke for 12.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: The committee members should consider asking Mr. O'Brien to refer the report to us as the relevant line committee that deals with the Department of Health and the HSE. This is the appropriate committee to discuss the report. I will call on the committee to discuss the matter afterwards. Deputy Kelleher has seven minutes.

Irish Water: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (23 Oct 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: 11 o’clock When people speak about Irish Water, there is a sense of a lack of information and communication. When we hear Irish Water speak about off balance sheet borrowing, there is confusion. The ordinary person has no idea what off balance sheet borrowing means or could mean. It would allow Irish Water to borrow money to invest more money than the Government could on its...

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