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Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: It is up to them then if they want to levy it on the householders.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: I wish to ask some questions in relation to the Vote itself. A total of €4 billion is being carried forward in capital allowances. How long is it possible to carry them forward? Is there a cut-off period or year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Is it the original tax incentive or sheltering?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Does that determine the date?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: That is it. They die. To return to the accounts and to the figure for training and development and incidental expenses, in 2012 it was €12.357 billion but the outturn was €17.368 million. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: What do the incidental expenses cover? Is it like a miscellaneous heading? I am sure Revenue asks clients about such categories when it audits them.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Was that Abtran?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Deputy Costello asked about that earlier. In 2012 there was a cost for consultancy services and value for money policy reviews. To what do they refer? While the officials are searching for the figures, I will inquire about compensation and losses. In 2012 the amount was €431,000 while in 2013, it was €437,000. The provision was similar for 2014.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Does that relate to Revenue getting value for money?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: I see.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: What about compensation and losses?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Compensation of €255,317 was paid in respect of legal action taken by members of the public. What did the Revenue do to them? In 2012, it was €392,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Does Revenue pick up on the legal fees?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Is that quite expensive?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: It pays back Revenue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: What does this mean? It is under net allied services expenditure, which states: "In addition to services rendered without charge to other Votes (2.85 million), services to the value of approximately €483,000 were also provided without charge to other bodies."

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: So they use your system?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: We will move on to performance awards, note 5.2. A total of €96,600 was spent on exceptional performance awards for 1,290 individuals ranging from €19 to €750.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Regarding the external solicitors, does Revenue have a panel of solicitors that it uses? I see that in 2012, external solicitors cost it €4.9 million and in 2013, it was €5.3 million. Is that a tender process or is it a list-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15: Local Property Tax
Chapter 16: Taxation of Rental Income
2014 Account of the Revenue Commissioners
(2 Jul 2015)

John McGuinness: Is that the same with the counsel fees?

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