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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I will discuss now weaknesses in controls over fixed assets. There are some assets that Mr. Gleeson cannot locate. What would be the nature of those assets and is there a value on them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: What kind of things are they?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Excuse me, but in Mr Gleeson's mention of motor vehicles, how is one not able to locate a motor vehicle?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Mr. Gleeson has put these into a value pecking order. What is on the top of that value list?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Would Mr. Gleeson not have money value beside these assets?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Mr. Gleeson must have a ballpark value on these if he is putting them in a pecking order.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: How can Mr. Gleeson rank assets then?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: It is not if it is a 1974 Fiat Punto in comparison to a brand-new computer.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: There is obviously a weakness. It must be decided then how funds will be spent. If things are at a point where they are fully depreciated and have no value, are we then expending valuable administrative time on matters where we are overstating a problem here? Having said that, is there a tracking system for items that are purchased now?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Moving to the underspend on salaries, this is something that we see nearly every week in the committee, where we are usually told that there is a difficulty recruiting people. Is it correct to say that there are 62 retired Civil Service staff who have been re-engaged by the Department which cost €1.6 million? Can Mr. Gleeson confirm that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Why would they have been rehired?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Are these people contracted or directly employed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: On the question of underspend on salaries, what is the Department's complement of staff, what numbers are being recruited, what areas are the Department finding it difficult to recruit in?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Yes, every week.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Does it take a long time to recruit through that process?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Is it the same now?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: How many people does the Department employ and what is staff headcount?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: What is the optimum number, as opposed to the number that were employed? How many people were being recruited at that time?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Have you reached that figure since?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(20 Jun 2019)

Catherine Murphy: What areas are we talking about, were they specialist or administrative areas?

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