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Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. Boland for his permission. I will move on. Can Mr. Boland check with him to get the background to this and provide the Committee of Public Accounts with a report?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Mr. Boland will?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Mr. Boland is very helpful. If he will ascertain that we might then be able to determine where exactly this project is at.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Out of its own resources?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: All the more reason why we should find out from the previous CEO of that company or the president exactly what happened.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I will not rest until I find out because something has to be done about that, Mr. Ó Foghlú. It may not have been the Department's funding, but it had to come from somewhere.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: It did go into that building.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Fine. That is okay, but the Department is not funding for completion because it has not agreed to it.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I will ask the clerk to write to the president and the CEO of Diverse Campus Services, whom Mr. Boland says is still with WIT, and ask for a comprehensive explanation as to where this project is at and then to determine what money is left in their funds to complete it and what is their expectation of funding from the Department of Education. I will ask the clerk to do that with the...

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: You are too busy looking after all the other matters.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I will ask the clerk to do it.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: He is still employed. He is a staff member. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Mr. Boland told me that. He is a staff member of WIT.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: When he became a staff member and was no longer CEO, he hardly forgot everything he did.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Mr. Boland is very helpful. That is what we will do. In terms of the use of consultants and whatever might happen in colleges, this report that you gave the committee, Mr. Ó Foghlú, was into Cork Institute of Technology. In all honesty, how do you expect us decipher all of this redacted information, page after page of it? We get complete blow-by-blow information from a...

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. Ó Foghlú. Can his statement be published?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: How much was spent on this?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I invite Mr. Boland to make his presentation.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: The Committee of Public Accounts gave you a completely unredacted version of the accusations and you then gave us this. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: It has been suggested that we bring in CIT and the Department again in respect of the accusations to go through them, because they have not been explained in that report. I could go through the report with you, but it is too late now and we will have to set another date for it. Anyway, I can tell you that there are more questions arising from that report than there were before the report...

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