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Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I understand that. Mr. Ó Foghlú refers to the Quigley report as if I am asking questions that I should know the answer to. All I know from the Quigley report is it said €2.9 million. I know that when the decision was being made that people were told it would cost €4 million to terminate the contract at that time. I am asking whether that is true or false and, on...

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Mr. Ó Foghlú does not know what the cost is.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: What is happening down there with it at the moment?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Are the buildings empty? It is used or not used?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: How long has it been empty?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Two years. Does the Department find that acceptable?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: How much has the taxpayer spent on that up to now? Then the Department closed it; at least it did not do what the Department of Justice did and tear it down.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: At least there is a building there.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: What concerns me is that the buildings are there, the project is completed to a particular stage. It is two years since anyone revisited that project. Buildings, by their nature, if they are not used tend to suffer from some kind of dilapidation. It will cost much more than €2.9 million. When will the decision be made to deal with this issue once and for all? There was a Diverse...

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: When did it tender?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: What does that tender show? Does it show that €2.9 million will complete it?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: What is the gap?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I find that extraordinary. Mr. Boland is here to oversee all these colleges and Mr Ó Foghlú is here to oversee the spending of taxpayers' money but nobody has a clear view of what exactly is happening to those buildings now and what the exact cost of completing it will be. Whether they want to do it or not is another question. Mr Ó Foghlú is talking about €2.9...

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: When does Mr. Ó Foghlú think he will find out? Could he not ring the CEO of Diverse Campus Services? That was a title that we came across.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: The president.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: That president had a CEO of Diverse Campus Services involved during the process. Is that right, Mr. Boland?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Where is he now?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Where is he now?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Will Mr. Boland undertake to check with the CEO, who was the CEO but who is now in the institute, Mr. Boland has said-----

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