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Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I know.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I should have said at the beginning of the meeting that apologies had been received from Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin. I propose to suspend the sitting until after the vote has taken place in the Dáil. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank the members for their patience. I welcome the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs, Deputy James Reilly, Ms Elizabeth Canavan, Secretary General at the Department of Children and Youth Affairs, and also in the Visitors Gallery, Mr. Paul Fay and Mr. Dermot Ryan. If they wish to join us, they are more than welcome to come down. This meeting has been convened for the purpose of...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy has misinterpreted what I said. I am not going to have a row with him, because I am not going to allow us to go into this. What I said was that members may discuss issues relevant to individual subheads. That is not relevant to subhead 40, to be fair. I am not going to have a row because-----

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: We will have a separate meeting, and we have agreed that the committee will have a quarterly meeting with Tusla as well.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy is not being relevant. I am trying to be fair. I am asking him to just take a deep breath. He is not being fair in discussing the subhead. I am not depriving him of any opportunity to raise issues regarding the matters he is discussing. This is a Supplementary Estimate on Vote 40. I can argue back and forth now, and if the Deputy wants to, that is fine. To be fair to the...

Confidence in Taoiseach and Government: Motion (9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Is this one you heard earlier?

Business of Dáil (9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: We do that every day.

Business of Dáil (9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: It is in the Deputy's e-mail.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank the Deputy. Are there any comments or questions on capital services - subhead E, appropriations-in-aid? In that case I thank the Minister and his officials, Mr. Breslin, Ms Prendergast and Mr. Mulvany for attending. I thank also the members of the media for attending. As the Minister will not be here before the holidays I wish him, the Department and the Health Service Executive...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Message to Dáil (9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: In accordance with Standing Order 87, the following message will be sent to the Dáil: The Select Sub-Committee on Health has completed its consideration of the following Supplementary Estimate for public services for the year ending 31 December 2014: Vote 39 - Health Service Executive.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Deputy Healy is correct. It is very frustrating, annoying and upsetting, particularly for the families and patients who are dealing with the primary care reimbursement service, PCRS. There is an ongoing difficulty there, despite the fact that there are many committed staff who are doing tremendous work. One of the biggest problems is that there is inconsistency among whom one deals with on...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: The other matter causing angst is the GPs saying they do not have the power of renewal. Has that been clarified?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: We will move on to the Care Programme. Subhead C1 relates to primary care reimbursement services and community demand-led schemes. Are there any comments or questions?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: We will move to subhead A3 which deals with corporate administrative arrangements. Does the 28% increase relate to retirements, unanticipated expenditure or a combination of both?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: We will move to subheads B1 to B4, inclusive. I notice that there is a figure of 5% for the Dublin region compared to 3% for the south and the west. Is there a particular reason for this? Is it related to population or demographics?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Wearing my southern hat, I am just curious. I hope it is not the case that we are being treated unfairly, given that Dublin is supposedly the capital city. We will deal with grants to other bodies, including voluntary and joint board hospitals, which are dealt with underhead subhead B5. The next subhead under Other Services is B11.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: The invitation is noted.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: Have we changed policy about State claims? Deputy Ó Caoláin made a point about State claims in terms of litigation, taking an inordinate amount of time to reach a settlement and leaving it until the steps of the courthouse. Is there hope of changing the culture of this situation?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Jerry Buttimer: The Minister will respond as we go through the subheads. I remind members that we will consider-----

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