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Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes. We will come back to it again if necessary. Some other issues arise. There are 62 staff and four vacancies in the HEA.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Deputy Dowds referred to the National College of Art and Design and the fact that the last set of accounts was from 2011 and 2012. Before it becomes an issue, I am anxious to determine if there is a progress report. Arising from the meeting we had with the National College of Art and Design, could Mr. Boland indicate what progress has been made to date on the issues that were raised and how...

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: The next matter relates to Waterford Institute of Technology. Is Mr. Nevin the president?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Where is Mr. Nevin?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: So Mr. Nevin is now working with the HEA.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: And he is paid for by the Department of Education and Skills.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: What is the wide range of issues he is dealing with?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: He is heading up that strategy.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Is that as a consultant or is he employed by the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: So Mr. Nevin is being paid by Waterford IT but is working for the HEA, and the Department at some stage will pick up the tab-----

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: -----for his payments dating back to the time that he left the college.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: But why would the Department not work it out if he left the college and went into the employment of the HEA?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: What agreement is to be made? If he left the college and went to work for the HEA-----

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: So he has not left the college.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I see. That is interesting. I wish to return to a matter that was raised earlier by Deputy Deasy about Dr. Byrne, the previous president. The HEA received a report back in 2011 in relation to the expenditure at the college. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I am trying to explore-----

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: WIT did a report to the HEA on 3 June 2011, and in that report it set out to address various matters at that time, particularly to do with what was described then as the cost centre for Dr. Byrne. Reading the report that the HEA was given, it would appear that much of what we were talking about back then did not relate to Dr. Byrne at all. It was a cost centre that was used generally and...

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I will not speak for him, but Deputy Deasy was trying to redress the balance in terms of that issue at the time and the fact that it was perhaps not appropriate to refer to it as Dr. Byrne's expenditure, which I think is fair, because it was said at the meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: One moment. I will allow Mr. Ó Foghlú to comment in a moment. The HEA had that report.

Public Accounts Committee: Higher Education Authority: Financial Statements 2014 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes, but I am not going into that. I am just trying to work out our understanding of what happened, because a lot was said at the public hearing. We did not go back to specifically address the issues, and it is only fair that I refer to this particular report, which is in existence and went to the HEA. One of the other clarifications I am anxious to get relates to the sports centre....

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