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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Is there a public car park as well? If so, is it tied in with Pianora as well?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Is Mr. O'Brien intent on seeing that the new board represents all the different interests in the CRC - students, parents and various types of staff? Such an organisation has a wide variety of professional staff, including teachers, physiotherapists and occupational therapists.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Could the fact that the CRC is based in various locations also be taken into consideration? Everyone in Clondalkin felt they were very much on the outside.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Could Mr. O'Brien provide an update on that when the board has been put in place?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: I thank Mr. O'Brien.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Mr. Conlan has indicated that he can elaborate on the matter.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Were those pensioners State employees?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: So they were not paid by the State.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Why did they not have pension packages provided by the State?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Did they retire some years ago?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Was this a top-up pension that was additional to what they would have received from the State?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Yes. I return to a question I posed when Mr. Kiely and other members of the now defunct board came before the committee. It is probably best to direct said question to the HSE, which, unlike the former board of the CRC, is in a position to take action on the matter. I was aware that in the south-west Dublin area adult services were to be provided by the CRC after it had received a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: I thank Mr. Conlan for attending the meeting. Can he understand how shocked I am, as a teacher who is on leave of absence from Scoil Mochua, which is under the patronage of the CRC, at these revelations? I thought the limits of my capacity to be shocked had been reached at the last meeting, but I was wrong. The staff and students of Scoil Mochua are also shocked at what has transpired....

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Does he understand the damage that has been done to the entire charity sector, including organisations that have nothing to do with what went on at the CRC, and the huge work that will have to be done to repair that damage?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Does Mr. Conlan accept that people will find that impossible to believe?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Did the proposal not go to the board?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Is Mr. Conlan sure that is correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Was Mr. Conlan on the board of the Friends and Supporters of the Central Remedial Clinic as well as the board of the CRC itself?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

Robert Dowds: Can Mr. Conlan or Mr. O'Brien throw any light on the reference by Mr. O'Brien is his opening statement to a figure of €3 million that was transferred from the Friends and Supporters of the CRC to the CRC itself?

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