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Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: Are we going to do only yes-no answers?

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: It is unhelpful to get into that sort of binary debate.

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: No, I asked if that was the Deputy's intention.

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: Leaders' Questions are at 12 p.m. if he wants to go there.

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: That is not what the Deputy asked me. He asked a very specific question.

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: It would be unhelpful, premature and unwise to get into a detailed binary set of commitments around legislation that has yet to be drafted around proposals that were introduced at broad, high level yesterday, that are not due to kick in for almost a year. It would be unhelpful and would run the risk of misleading students and many other interested parties; primarily students. Also there is...

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: I thank the Deputy. There are a number of points there. A new dentistry course starts this year in the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland, RCSI. I was at the college when it announced it recently and that is to kick off this September. That is under way and imminent. In respect of veterinary studies, I completely agree there are too many Irish students studying in Poland and...

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: Gabhaim buíochas leis an Teachta Ó Súilleabháin agus Loch Garman abú freisin. I thank the Deputy for that. It was good to talk to him in Riverchapel National School – my old national school – in Wexford last week. It was a good event. I am a big supporter of the Wexford SETU campus and the vision that has been articulated there by a number of...

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: It is down to the two of them in hurling. I never thought I would have that problem.

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: I do not know about the Senator's former career but I know he is a man of many talents and has a great interest in agriculture. I agree with him that there are great opportunities in agricultural colleges. I am thinking of Kildalton. The veterinary courses we are rolling out in ATU and SETU will utilise them - hopefully, to their fullest. I am meeting with representatives from SETU today...

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: I thank the Senator. She raised a number of important issues. In terms of industrial relations issues and the grade of adult educator, I am pretty supportive of that. The role was established through the industrial relations framework following engagements between ETBs and employers and workers. They engaged extensively and it was back and forth in the Labour Court. The grade was then...

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: This is an important topic - an Teachta Ó Súilleabháin touched on it earlier - and there is funding for it. There is an annual fund of €900,000 to support greater use of Irish by students and staff, not necessarily in terms of the educational provision but among themselves, in their day-to-day activities in the staffroom, etc. There is also the €1.8 million...

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: I thank the Senator for hosting me at those Limerick institutions. They were very productive visits and spanned quite well the entire spectrum, from the hospitality education at the Roxborough ETB right through to immersive bioscience degree, a very commericalised, high-end research piece. Regarding multi-annual funding, there are a couple of ways I can answer this question. My Department...

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: I am not familiar with the situation in Shannon but I am quite happy to look into it if the Deputy sends me a note on it. If she does the same on the other point, I will get back to her in some detail.

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: There have been no cuts to funding on my watch. However, there are localised situations. The ETBs are the employers and they have local engagement with their staff and there are different arrangements. When I attended the TUI conference, the sense I took from people on the floor and the executive was that there was a broad welcome for the adult educator grade being established. I note...

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: Yes, exactly.

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: I hear what the Senator is saying. On the income disregard, my view is we should continue to revise it. It has progressed upwards in recent years. One thing it is useful to state at this point is that whatever I do, whatever I am guided to do in the context of the cost of education and consultation, is for next year because the budget for this year is already set. What is going to happen...

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: I thank Deputy Cummins.

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: I thank the Deputy. Regarding the disability courses, I can get her a note on the detail. To give some broad-brush details, nine different disciplines were identified in consultations with the Minister for Health, the Minister for education, and the Minister for disabilities as the priority areas to be front-loaded into the new provision. These included occupational therapy, physiotherapy,...

Committee on Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science: Engagement with Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (11 Jun 2025)

James Lawless: Turning to the ETBs, it is regrettable that not all ETBs have complied with national agreements. It is extremely regrettable and I have made this clear. There is a limit, though, in terms of the powers I can exercise in terms of compelling conformance, but it is extremely regrettable and I hope this is noted by the ETBs that have not done so to date. We will have to keep an eye on the...

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