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Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: Nearly 60.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: There is a range. We have seconded people from Irish Water, TII and An Bord Pleanála into the division. We have a mix of people involved. We have integrated a procurement division so there are a lot of people who have expertise in the capital works management framework, for example. There is extensive economic background from people who are economists and have previous experience in...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: Feargal O'Rourke, yes. The Deputy put me on the spot. They have been really important. As part of the infrastructure task force, they have gone into sub-groups with different parts of the division relating to some of the actions that we are taking forward in the report. There is an extensive skill mix, I suppose, from procurement, seconding the experts in from the key State bodies that...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: We can send an organisational chart about the mix of people in the Department who are working there.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: We have Michael Walsh, who is the former chief executive of Waterford county council. He is on our infrastructure task force as an ex officio member. He was 40 years-plus in the local authority system, as someone who started there and ended up as a CEO. That is important.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: What we are doing is taking the wider feedback economy-wide and providing direction from Government about the reforms that we believe should happen.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: It is reforms and implementation. For example, Transport Infrastructure Ireland, Irish Water or others are State bodies that are facing significant barriers to infrastructure delivery. We have met with some of the local authorities. I met with many of them in the period prior to the summer and through the summer relating to the barriers that they face around implementing infrastructure in...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: It is not necessarily. Some of it is local authority but, for example, a wastewater treatment plant-----

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: Yes.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: We will publish them when we have them agreed.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: I do not know if the Deputy has read the report from July.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: If you read the report from July, we have identified the barriers that are there. The actions that will emerge from it essentially address the barriers that have been brought through the stakeholder engagement, the public consultation and the feedback and informed by international best practice. They will be agreed by Government but it will relate to amendment of guidelines, possible...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: -----which sometimes marks other reports. We want to take time-bound actions which will yield real reform in areas we can control. To answer the Deputy's question, we will publish them in the weeks following the budget.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: In the national development plan review,we prioritised water, energy, transport, housing and health digitalisation, but we have also given headroom to other Departments for important social infrastructure. For example, it could be the Department of sport on sports capital and ensuring we have enough sporting infrastructure. We have the Department of children and disability working in the...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: That complements the focus on the critical economic growth-enabling infrastructure, but we have matched that with the other areas which are important to communities and people. School places, childcare facilities, sports facilities and green spaces, as the Deputy said, are important as well. I acknowledge that Deputy Neville's parents and family are here. I forgot to do that at the...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: We are examining that as an option. That is what we want to do. It is certainly an option. We will have to make decisions around that when we publish our report.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: There will have to be a wider Government discussion about that. We have seen how a similar issue emerged with permission relating to the A5 in the North. There has not been extensive discussion around that in the Government. If a growing risk emerges where we cannot deliver infrastructure that everyone agrees on because of a particular piece of legislation, it will have to be assessed....

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: Yes. That is a key issue and barrier identified where things do not move in parallel and time is wasted because of the nature of how the process is sequenced. That is something being considered in the context of reform to maximise parallel processes in order that we do not waste time. It is under discussion and consideration around the reforms that will take place.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: I know this is an issue. There is a reference to it in the programme for Government as well. I know the Minister, Deputy McEntee, is working on this. From an education perspective, the most immediate and pressing issue when we have shortages or issues, whether they be in special education or in areas where particular demands or acute pressures are emerging, is that we provide the...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Priorities and Provisions in the Review of the National Development Plan: Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (24 Sep 2025)

Jack Chambers: I thank Deputy Clendennen. I note his interest in the N52 as well. There are three different examples there.

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