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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Did she speak to any of the other members of the board at the time before coming to the meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Not even to check if she could not remember what happened on a certain date?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Did she have any outside preparation or assistance in preparing for this meeting today?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Could she detail it?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Legal advice. Was there any professional help in preparing answers? Was that the legal advice?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Who would have paid for that?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Would it come from Department funding?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: At several board meetings, board members absented themselves because they felt there was a conflict or a perception of a conflict of interest. At a meeting on 2 November 2006, for example, the chair leaves with another board member but then the replacement chair has to leave too because of a conflict of interest. From the minutes, it is quite common for people to leave board meetings due to...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Was the Department responsible for appointing people to the board?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Was it the Minister and the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, as it was then?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: On what basis were they appointed? Was it just a ministerial decision and a political gift?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: I was not here at the time. How were they made at the time?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank Ms Tallon for that clarification. I just find it odd that so many people on the board seemed to have so many professional interests in the work the authority was doing at the time. I also find it odd when we discuss conflicts of interest that it is just seen as a perception issue, a perceived conflict of interest rather than actual conflict of interest. That is still the language...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank the witnesses for attending today. The committee was discussing this matter previously but its discussions had to come to an end. As a result, further time has elapsed, which makes it difficult to get to some of the issues. I appreciate greatly that Ms Moylan is only one of a number of serving board members who are now appearing before the committee. It is unfortunate if the full...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: How did Ms Moylan come to be on the board originally?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Was the person who preceded Ms Moylan as head of the planning division also a member of the board?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: We have spoken about the two hats Ms Moylan was wearing. There is often a difficulty with people understanding their responsibilities as board members. Usually, a board member's obligations are to the institution or company on the board of which he or she sits. However, Ms Moylan had a separate responsibility to the Department and the State. We have discussed potential and perceived...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: I refer to the Irish Glass Bottle Company site and the need to provide advice to the Minister as to whether he should approve the increased borrowing at the same time as Ms Moylan was pursuing a commercial objective as a member of the board which was seen to be to the benefit of the authority.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Clearly Ms Moylan was conflicted at the time.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Approaching the decision, Ms Moylan had to weigh up two competing responsibilities. Is that correct?

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