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Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: Yes, €130 million and 1.3 million-----

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: Account for the 700,000.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: This is pretty fundamental stuff. We have a right to know whether all of this adds up or not.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: We need the Ann and Barry guide now, if the Minister can produce it. Let us round the figure down and say there are 2 million homes - housing units - in the country. The Minister is saying there are 1.3 million primary residences. That suggests, then, that at least 700,000 homes are not accounted for. The Minister has already contradicted himself when he said the tenants in those housing...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: There is no duplication. We have posed very specific questions to which the Minister has given us partial answers. While we appreciate the information he has provided, some of our questions remain to be addressed. What is the administrative cost to Irish Water-----

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: No, he has not. The Acting Chairman should be fair to us.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: If the Acting Chairman listened to the reply, he would know the Minister has not given us all the information we sought. First, what is the estimated cost to Irish Water of administering the charges, that is, sending out bills four times a year, chasing payments and so on? Second, what is the estimated cost of sending out cheques to every household in the country under the so-called...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: It is money for old rope.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: For no reason.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: We all are paying for it.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: Could I ask one more question?

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: There is another question I would like the Minister to answer in that regard. He stated that 50% of people can beat the cap that has been set. If 50% of people beat the cap, what are the implications of that for the funding of Irish Water?

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: If the Minister expects people to support this important legislation, the least we are entitled to know is whether this model stacks up or not. The question is reasonable. Will it cost the State to charge people for water? It is a basic question and we have a right to know the answer before a decision is taken on this legislation. The Minister has already talked about the revenue being...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: I have a serious difficulty with this section, which relates to what is termed the conservation grant. That term is a complete misnomer. The grant has nothing whatsoever to do with conservation. It is, in fact, a sop to try to soften the blow and obtain some kind of political acceptance in respect of these charges. Not only is the grant misnamed, it is also a very regressive measure...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: In the context of this calamitous matter, is the Minister going to outline where the staff who will be obliged to process claims will come from? The payout in respect of this grant is going to be bigger than that of any other social welfare scheme. I am not aware of any such scheme under which payments are made to every household in the country. This is going to be a huge bureaucratic...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: I know that. I have made that clear.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: Yes.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: The exemption expires.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: I did not suggest that the directive expires. It is the exemption that expires.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Róisín Shortall: It is important for the Minister to clarify this point. There is a facility for an exemption-----

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