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Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: What is the OGP?

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: That is Mr. Burke's Department. Let us just stick with his Department-----

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: -----because somebody is overlooking them. They are not doing much. From what I have seen in the audit reports presented this morning, they are not doing much because there are examples here of the procurement process being ignored left, right and centre. I want to stick with this matter and then I shall finish. The figures indicate that the cost of travel and subsistence for both 2012...

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: What does that mean? Does it mean students are not paying their fees?

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: In 2012, GMIT's bad debt provision was €166,000 and in 2013 it had grown to €287,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: What does Mr. Boland think of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: And we have Mr. Boland overseeing it.

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: And Mr. Ó Foghlú behind him.

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Who are the auditors?

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Who would do the trend analysis? Mazars?

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Internally.

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: This is where I see the problem. Deloitte is doing all this other work with the institutions. That is where all the information is. It has everything, down to the cost of everything, or it should have, and it does not share that information.

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Where is the information compiled from?

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Of all the institutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Mr. Roche, therefore, looks at the Deloitte accounts of every institute.

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: What I am asking is that Mr. Roche would look at the audited accounts-----

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: -----from Deloitte. They are the ones involved in the internal audit-----

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: Is Mazars paid separately?

Public Accounts Committee: Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013 (24 Sep 2015)

John McGuinness: I know that but between Deloitte, Mazars and the Comptroller and Auditor General someone is falling down and there are piles of information there, if I understand audits. That is my view on it. It is seriously remiss of the Department and the HEA if they do not go back over Deloitte's working papers and have a central base to compare figures. The figures I have given the witnesses today...

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